X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-help-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-help AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ZHo05MPOymiEtPTv+aTA5Hf7MwExi5hFxmXimEmuo1Q=; b=l2x1UdEtU2H5SnyzzK+fKshzyQGWG7UGJ/P742ltnE9M0YPWSx8kf2Wd1vfccRjyfx GiLdH6SRyJQo61HhGdSRbPEbNo9ScaDeoSnUhc7cIhqk7batnegVuMCDyDi/xjNyBECK tXctdOqAltq6xvCFJQqbyAgyRyewwBLNvImhoWq5HzmqLSqG2c99if6oa7+wbUvIyOy2 Uw2MfzUHREEMpsaRchfcNvGAoNCdxdTPRhfvNBVO71oKYg0vrblUM2iQhPzMUIRB8mmb 15YqeFc4Bp4P1jyyTV+GAp6TbA2BglRdAQDyNQ7HCRuFvoMfPFusUaQEAaRn20LFbS5S mLSw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=ZHo05MPOymiEtPTv+aTA5Hf7MwExi5hFxmXimEmuo1Q=; b=ryH4QWfPa+pNcXeuVcQLTqzQV8m9gOYnqJjBxlEND9cXE9qmcT6yjhnLdKbrzjigIC ZcXMKqXD6/b1O+Ix+fjROHZhsrH9SpJOr21+H9MW0/5urg6PjhXoBOFeLarfnAf6TDp6 05BsdmOM6tOFlKipbvy6S9mOoaKfqcnHCcPsJqLMY2k+b5zAqyiP50k+c8ba68dW9JsU BokqSWoWa4D2vY7Z4/R4Yug8AD+mI+Yei8A10KjA4TBIPX4DlpqVGLa+mULxYtt0wnn+ 8mgjPMvFUlHiP7fprSXAkl5Ayo/zYJ4dyB678K1Kz+BDWXyFRk9YgOUsszXvniXa9t/7 +qDA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukcbIs4rMtMP3y8T/cIu8L0MfzJh2451P+NSjMD/2wzsHxtYyyAQ M7PIze5rtc6KAeLgvK75q9gLKVzWOAYU6QozGMY5Ww== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN4FuqKFy+bItKn5WmJ8M41R4M1fKE3CjOAyUChnUqBZlJ2G72w4p7p+D6uNMC1BpzBIuiXDRGXq9v0Aj/UOS0Q= X-Received: by 2002:a65:4784:: with SMTP id e4mr14558344pgs.12.1546465845556; Wed, 02 Jan 2019 13:50:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: "Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 16:50:34 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-help] Tutorial To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000061bbc4057e80a399" Reply-To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com --00000000000061bbc4057e80a399 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Torben- Are you still working through the Bill Wilson tutorial? If so, I'm not sure what you mean by page 6. Can you please provide a link to the tutorial you're referring to? Thanks, --Chad On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > Hi Chad, > I am confused by the UBUNTU geda tutorial. > In the beginning R101, R102 and R103 are placed together. On page 6 R102, > R201 and R103 are placed together in the same place and R102 is placed > where R201 was before. > I have other problems - fx with lines created in PCB - but I would take > one example to see if the confusion is my problem. > torben > > On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM Torben Friis wrote: > >> Hi Chad, >> I deleted all files except Project, one.sch and two.sch and ran gsch2pcb >> once - and it worked. >> torben >> >> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:11 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) >> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >> >>> Hi Torben- >>> >>> The second time you run gsch2pcb it looks at the differences. The first >>> time it may not have picked up all of the elements due to footprint name >>> errors. The second time (and all subsequent times) you run it, it produces >>> board.*new*.pcb, which contains the new elements, so that it doesn't >>> overwrite your original file. To get them into the layout, you have to do >>> as it says: open the layout then go to the file menu, select "load layout >>> data to paste buffer", and select board.new.pcb. Then you can paste them >>> into the layout. >>> >>> Alternatively, if you haven't done any work on the pcb yet, you can >>> delete board.pcb and board.new.pcb and rerun gsch2pcb. >>> >>> Also, make sure that you execute Select > Disperse All Elements, as >>> sometimes the elements will overlap when they're brought into the layout. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> --Chad >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 2:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via >>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> It is rather confusing. When I run gsch2pcb project I get: >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------- >>>> Done processing. Work performed: >>>> 5 file elements and 0 m4 elements added to board.new.pcb. >>>> >>>> Next steps: >>>> 1. Run pcb on your file board.pcb. >>>> 2. From within PCB, select "File -> Load layout data to paste buffer" >>>> and select board.new.pcb to load the new footprints into your >>>> existing layout. >>>> 3. From within PCB, select "File -> Load netlist file" and select >>>> board.net to load the updated netlist. >>>> >>>> 4. From within PCB, enter >>>> >>>> :ExecuteFile(board.cmd) >>>> >>>> to update the pin names of all footprints. >>>> >>>> First it does not tally with the description given in the tutorial - I >>>> am using the one that comes with Ubuntu. >>>> >>>> Second, when I run pcb board.pcb I get only the transistor and the >>>> resistor on the screen with a yellow line leading nowhere. Should'nt I get >>>> both one.sch and two.sch? If I folllow the instructions above I add the >>>> one.sch to the screen all bundled up. Both one.sch and two.sch appear to be >>>> OK. >>>> >>>> As I say, I am confused. >>>> best ergards >>>> torben >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:46 PM Torben Friis wrote: >>>> >>>>> It worked. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) >>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Torben- >>>>>> >>>>>> Welcome to the community! Please feel free to post any questions you >>>>>> may have. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the issue is that the CONNECTOR is no longer an m4 element, >>>>>> so, it's not generating it the way the tutorial thinks it should. >>>>>> >>>>>> Looking through the pcb element footprints, there is, however, a >>>>>> footprint "CONNECTOR 1 2". I suspect that will serve for your purposes. >>>>>> Please try changing "CONNECTOR 2 1" --> "CONNECTOR 1 2" and see if that >>>>>> fixes it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> --Chad >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 7:00 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) >>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> This is my first attempt at using geda-help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When in the Bill Wilson gEDA tutorial I use: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> gsch2pcb project >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I get the following message in the log: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CONN202: can't find PCB element for footprint CONNECTOR-2-1 >>>>>>> (value=unknown). >>>>>>> So device CONN202 will not be in the layout. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The attributes of the connector are. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> device: BNC >>>>>>> footprint: CONNECTOR 2 1 >>>>>>> refdes: CONN202 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think that I have followed the instructions, so what is wrong? >>>>>>> best regards >>>>>>> torben >>>>>>> >>>>>> --00000000000061bbc4057e80a399 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Torben-

Are you still workin= g through the Bill Wilson tutorial? If so, I'm not sure what you mean b= y page 6. Can you please provide a link to the tutorial you're referrin= g to?

Thanks,
--Chad
=
On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:44= PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]= <geda-help AT delorie DOT com>= wrote:
Hi Chad,
I am confused = by the UBUNTU geda tutorial.
In the beginning R101,= R102 and R103 are placed together. On page 6=C2=A0 R102, R201 and R103 are= placed together in the same place and R102 is placed where R201 was before= .
I have other problems - fx with lines created in = PCB - but I would take one example to see if the confusion is my problem.
torben

On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> w= rote:
Hi Chad,
I deleted all = files except Project, one.sch and two.sch and ran gsch2pcb once - and it wo= rked.
torben

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:11 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gm= ail.com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
Hi Torben-

The second time you run gsch2pcb it looks at the diffe= rences. The first time it may not have picked up all of the elements due to= footprint name errors. The second time (and all subsequent times) you run = it, it produces board.new.pcb, which contains the new elements, so t= hat it doesn't overwrite your original file. To get them into the layou= t, you have to do as it says: open the layout then go to the file menu, sel= ect "load layout data to paste buffer", and select board.new.pcb.= Then you can paste them into the layout.

Alte= rnatively, if you haven't done any work on the pcb yet, you can delete = board.pcb and board.new.pcb and rerun gsch2pcb.

Al= so, make sure that you execute Select > Disperse All Elements, as someti= mes the elements will overlap when they're brought into the layout.
=

Cheers,
--Chad

=

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 = at 2:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
Hi,
<= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif= ;font-size:large">It is rather confusing. When I run gsch2pcb project I get= :

--------------------= --------------
Done processing.=C2=A0 Work performed:
5 file elements= and 0 m4 elements added to board.new.pcb.

Next steps:
1.=C2=A0 R= un pcb on your file board.pcb.
2.=C2=A0 From within PCB, select "Fi= le -> Load layout data to paste buffer"
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 and s= elect board.new.pcb to load the new footprints into your existing layout.3.=C2=A0 From within PCB, select "File -> Load netlist file"= and select
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 board.net to load the updated netlist.

4.=C2=A0 From with= in PCB, enter

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 :ExecuteFile(board.cmd)

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 to update the pin = names of all footprints.

First it does not tally with the description given in the tutorial - I a= m using the one that comes with Ubuntu.

<= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif= ;font-size:large">Second, when I run pcb board.pcb I get only the transisto= r and the resistor on the screen with a yellow line leading nowhere. Should= 'nt I get both one.sch and two.sch? If I folllow the instructions above= I add the one.sch to the screen all bundled up. Both one.sch and two.sch a= ppear to be OK.

As= I say, I am confused.
best ergards
torben

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:46 PM Torben Friis <= friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
It worked.

Hi To= rben-

Welcome to the community! Please feel free t= o post any questions you may have.

I think the= issue is that the CONNECTOR is no longer an m4 element, so, it's not g= enerating it the way the tutorial thinks it should.

Looking through the pcb element footprints, there is, however, a foo= tprint "CONNECTOR 1 2". I suspect that will serve for your purpos= es. Please try changing "CONNECTOR 2 1" --> "CONNECTOR 1 = 2" and see if that fixes it.

Thanks,
--Chad





On Wed, Dec 26, 20= 18 at 7:00 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
=
Hi,
This is my first attempt at using = geda-help.

When in the Bill Wilson gEDA tutorial I use:

gsch2= pcb project

I get the following message in the log:

CONN202: = can't find PCB element for footprint CONNECTOR-2-1 (value=3Dunknown).So device CONN202 will not be in the layout.

The attributes of the= connector are.

device: BNC
footprint: CONNECTOR 2 1
refdes: C= ONN202

I think that I have followed the instructions, so what is wro= ng?
best regards
torben
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