X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-help-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-help AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wellesley-edu.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:subject:message-id:date:to :mime-version; bh=xraNxccORNBjXzIAPE7GaF24t58Y+KI3a/syep0qUoI=; b=MfX8E5RK6J0sNn1YhlSZOHlmh50LI93PEiS5AAYFFC8Us8mNiFQVjOMH19ZLNUlJi+ fpT8ghbc2EJ0OEv/jpMD4vMcb9LmW/HrlcoxeJ7fYatnRMKYuDQDtcRpA2RuMFXI612x 72JHHpQ8nueXcWBI4SdXc0ae0LVd8h9BVeB1tyq2mDE8XeNb1uyhX2SPlDpSkJl2QrXh NBcpQzOiiO3jKJjKYek1hvWMYXaXZbe/h3aMRfEeEJTRDtFlr1apMr3k7aN9ZSp9RaI1 oRu2lSY821GF7PNXU045TK0Z1nG56UWygOglqVThywSsmz/my7MY53dvYPoQDROCS7hb 7kZg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:subject :message-id:date:to:mime-version; bh=xraNxccORNBjXzIAPE7GaF24t58Y+KI3a/syep0qUoI=; b=d+2IZXqAVQ6oveUiFoDZgg1f+uhNwGJQc3+A2ssw0bSPrskwli88mgVpUHjCksvd5w g2Lhh6BYtX+7rZ6PSJz9/I2+CmBw9GnyfXwPf7MlXRabmOk1lZFczvlGQPJUEdAIK1we OeWy9T078rSOyLhFB5632KPV3Pmvo1M2rmJj8AC1JEE0kggUR/BLn0eTptBi2aiUkjom wVaqWHDol0i7kO4IMxsswC51AmhxrMPIF97yr2KSw6xSl2AnC5QCbhsweRq8OP3m5PCV d4vFl4jyy6Zvb/ye0ff5pt/T/enQ6eDQjcJkQF0bHwrbDegWnDN7AWcJlFPXAtTXfomj Y1/Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FV1UWCsutFRsoYmbe+LBD864a30tQmsYGFnLSYf9TsMy7EUqdvgWN/XtZJlsABjaYFr X-Received: by 10.129.98.139 with SMTP id w133mr3436413ywb.222.1461724129400; Tue, 26 Apr 2016 19:28:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "James Battat (jbattat AT wellesley DOT edu) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Subject: [geda-help] move layout region from back to front of board Message-Id: <3A283F0C-D959-4333-8F2E-20F57C1CC73A@wellesley.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 22:28:45 -0400 To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id u3R2Srlt024036 Reply-To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com Hi, In pcb, I have a small circuit region (a voltage regulator and supporting capacitors), with vias routed traces. I want to move the entire circuit from the back side of the board to the front. I tried the suggestion from a 2007 post by Harry Eaton: "If you're trying to move a whole layout region from front to back of your board, trying cutting the region to a buffer, then *view* the opposite side of the board and paste. Viola' everything is done for you.” That doesn’t work for me (PCB v1.99z). Specifically, I: * highlight the layout region of interest * Cut to buffer (Ctrl-x) * flip my view to the other side of the board (Tab) * paste the buffer (by clicking the left mouse button) * The buffer is pasted, but it remains on the original side (the back). I can move the traces from back to front using Shift-M (but the pads stay put). I can move an entire selection to the other side using Shift-B, but that destroys the layout (traces and vias go in one direction, pads go the other). How do I move all items at once (components, traces, vias), and preserve the layout? Thank you, James