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Thanks for puzzeling. (:
It is my dirty English and my confused head.
Sorry for that.




The way to make a proper product have so much possibilities for fails,
slips, bloopers, adversitys, misfortunes, misadventures and mishaps,
because that i will go every time strait forward. Not forward
than sideways and than finally forward but under no circumstances i will
go backward.

But why you do that?

"""
The pins2gsch script converts a "tab-separated value" (TSV) file into a
pseudo-schematic.
"""

What ist that?
Or is this only my misunderstanding?

Yes, i search a possibility to go forward, because i make so much
faults if the day is long. I spend so much time for controlling and correction.
I search for a possibility to have a more intuitive tool and fore more automatism.

The first idea was to attach to the connector a symbol like an io.sym with attribs like a
net=GND and a additional name like netname, pinname or pin-alias.
With this input i want to go in a shell-script.

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#For now a make is so:

gnetlist -g geda *.sch -o out.net
Connector=`cat out.net  | grep =CONNECTOR | cut --delimiter=' ' --field=1 | sort -n`
echo "Connector "$Connector | sed 's/ /\n,/g' > out.csv
for conn in $Connector; do
	touch tmp.csv
	echo "" >> out.csv
	echo $st >> out.csv
	echo "PIN ,Beschreibung" >> out.csv
	IFS='
'
	for conn1 in `cat out.net | grep $st | grep -v device= `; do
		IFS=':'
		var1=true
		for conn2 in st1 ; do
			if var1; then
				var1=false
				Name=$st2
			else
				IFS=','
				for conn3 in $conn2; do
					pin=""
					pin=`echo $conn3 | grep $conn | sed "s/$conn//1" | tr '\n' ' ' | sed 's/ //g'`
					if ["$pin" != "" ] ; then
						echo $pin","$Bezeichnung >> tmp.csv
					fi
				done
			fi
		done
	done
	...
	...
	...


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the result ist something like this:


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Steckverbinder
,CONN1
,CONN2
,CONN3
,CONN4
,CONN6
,CONN7
,CONN8

CONN1
PIN ,Beschreibung
1,M_EOC 
2,M_DOUT 
3,M_DIN 
5,M_SCLK 
6,Vee 
7,GND 
8,GND 
9,Vdd 

CONN2
PIN ,Beschreibung
1,P_mg2_s+ 
2,P_mg2_s- 
3,P_mg4_+ 
4,P_mg2_- 
5,P_mf2_s+ 
6,P_mf2_s- 
7,P_mg4_+ 
8,P_mf2_- 
9,P_mg3_s+ 
10,P_mg3_s- 
11,P_mg4_+ 
12,P_mg3_- 
13,P_mg4_s+ 
14,P_mg4_s- 
15,P_mg4_+ 
16,P_mg4_- 
17,T_m2_+ 
18,T_m2_- 
19,T_m3_+ 
20,T_m3_- 
21,T_m4_+ 
22,T_m4_- 

CONN3
PIN ,Beschreibung
1,unnamed_net21 
2,unnamed_net22 
3,unnamed_net23 
4,unnamed_net24 
5,unnamed_net25 
6,unnamed_net26 
7,unnamed_net27 
8,unnamed_net28 
9,unnamed_net29 

CONN4
PIN ,Beschreibung
1,unnamed_net21 
2,unnamed_net22 
3,unnamed_net23 
4,unnamed_net24 
5,unnamed_net25 
6,unnamed_net26 
7,unnamed_net27 
8,unnamed_net28 
9,unnamed_net29 

CONN6
PIN ,Beschreibung
1,A_INT3 
2,A_MOSI 
3,A_MISO 
4,A_RESET 
5,A_SCK 
6,+5V 
7,PGND 
8,PGND 
9,Valve/Heater+ 

CONN7
PIN ,Beschreibung
1,P_ag1_s+ 
2,P_ag1_s- 
3,P_af1_+ 
4,P_af1_+ 
5,P_af1_s+ 
6,P_af1_s- 
7,P_ag1_- 
8,P_af1_- 
9,T_ah1_- 
10,T_ah1_+ 
11,T_ah2_- 
12,T_ah2_+ 
13,T_av1_- 
14,T_av1_+ 
15,T_at1_- 
16,T_at1_+ 
17,Valve/Heater+ 
18,Valve/Heater+ 
19,Valve- 
20,Heater- 

CONN8
PIN ,Beschreibung
1,PGND 
2,PGND 
3,PGND 
4,PGND 
5,+5V 
6,+5V 
7,Valve/Heater+ 
8,Valve/Heater+ 
9,CAN1H 
10,CAN1L 
11,CAN0H 
12,CAN0L 
13,Valve/Heater+ 
14,+3.3V_CAN1 
15,+3.3V_CAN0

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Am Tue, 23 Feb 2016 19:26:26 -0700
schrieb John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com>:

> On Feb 23, 2016, at 10:56 AM, Smilie (smilie AT posteo DOT de) [via
> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> 
> > Am Tue, 23 Feb 2016 08:03:14 -0700
> > schrieb John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com>:
> >   
> >> On Feb 23, 2016, at 6:09 AM, Smilie (smilie AT posteo DOT de) [via
> >> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> >>   
> >>> Ah, i see.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> i have connected a line from GND.sym direct to one of the GND-Pins
> >>> and the other GND-Pin works also.  
> >> 
> >> What are you trying to do here?  
> > 
> > 
> > I want do write a script for automatic generation a spreadsheet with
> > all pin-names for any connector. I try to generate it from the
> > netlist-stuff.
> > But it does not work if i have only one potential.
> > The test with netname also does not work.  
> 
> OK, I’m puzzled. The IO symbols don’t represent physical pins on
> connectors. They represent logical connections within a set of
> schematics. What are you doing with them?
> 
> For connector pin lists, I work in the other direction, generating a
> pseudo-schematic from a table of pins rather than generating a table
> from a schematic. See
> http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/john_doty/tools/pins2gsch.html
> > 
> > 
> >   
> >> 
> >> What these symbols do is to give a net a name. That’s all. Naing
> >> the net connected to a pin GND connects it to all other nets named
> >> GND. If you have more than one such symbol, and the names don’t
> >> match, gnetlist will choose the first one it sees.
> >> 
> >> Is your net connected to anything?
> >>   
> >>> 
> >>> It is a bug?
> >>> I broke my head....
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks for helping me.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Am Tue, 23 Feb 2016 10:20:16 +0000
> >>> schrieb "Peter Clifton (petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com) [via
> >>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-help AT delorie DOT com>:
> >>>   
> >>>> Sorry I'm not currently able to check this out, but I recall that
> >>>> gnetlist has (in the past, and possibly currently), not worked
> >>>> properly in the case where only IO symbols with net=....:1
> >>>> attributes (but no actual components).
> >>>> 
> >>>> My recollection is not that clear, but try adding a dummy
> >>>> component (perhaps a resistor), with one pin connected on your
> >>>> schematic where you join PGND and your IO sym.  Don't need to
> >>>> give it a footprint (but you will probably get complaints from
> >>>> pcb about the missing component).
> >>>> 
> >>>> If this makes the connection appear in pcb, let us know - and
> >>>> I'll see if anyone working on the gEDA side of things has any
> >>>> ideas for a fix, or better work around.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I have an idea that I've made some boards with netlists that
> >>>> featured Rdummy1 Rdummy2 etc.... and I think I was working around
> >>>> the same issue you describe.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Peter
> >>>> On 22 Feb 2016 21:03, "Smilie (smilie AT posteo DOT de) [via
> >>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> >>>>   
> >>>>> Hallo Guys,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> i have a problem with my net or netname-attributes.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I have a connector with some io-1.sym's with attributes like
> >>>>> this: net="abcd:1".
> >>>>> Than i have a PGND.sym connected to the other io-1.sym's.
> >>>>> They have also the attribs net="abcd:1".
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I wont tho have a connection between the connector and the pgnd
> >>>>> but there is no connection in pcb.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> What is wrong?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Thanks for helping me.
> >>>>>   
> >>> 
> >>>   
> >> 
> >> John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
> >> http://www.noqsi.com/
> >> jpd AT noqsi DOT com
> >> 
> >>   
> > 
> > 
> >   
> 
> John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
> http://www.noqsi.com/
> jpd AT noqsi DOT com
> 
>