X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-help-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-help AT delorie DOT com Message-ID: <4F5116A2.8070702@arius.com> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 13:51:14 -0500 From: rickman Organization: Arius, Inc User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-help] GerbV Support References: <4F491FDF DOT 9030901 AT arius DOT com> <4F4C5331 DOT 3050104 AT arius DOT com> <1330447646 DOT 2533 DOT 7 DOT camel AT AMD64X2 DOT fritz DOT box> <4F50531D DOT 4090908 AT arius DOT com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090201020208090307030404" Reply-To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090201020208090307030404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 3/2/2012 7:45 AM, Matthew Sager wrote: > > > So is there any chance of getting some feedback on my issue with > the tool? Is this the right place to ask? I used to post on > geda-user but that list seems to have been deprecated in favor of > this one for support and the developers have their own list now. > > Rick > > > Hello Rick, > > It looks like the Gerbv does not understand the tool definitions at > the top of your file. > > Here is an example of how the tool definitions usually look. > > M48 > INCH > T29C0.040 #this is for a 40 MIL hole > T28C0.035 #this is for a 35 MIL hole > % > T28 > X012900Y009100 > X010700Y010000 > X010700Y011000 > X020500Y009500 > X020500Y010900 > X012900Y014100 > T29 > X008196Y009433 > X007196Y008933 > X008196Y005033 > M30 > > If you manually edit the header of the file to something like this it > will probably work. I do not remember right now what G90 is for. > Also, You might want to split the non-plated holes to another file. > > M48 > INCH > T01C0.008 > T02C0.012 > T03C0.038 > etc.... > % > G90 > T01 > X00291000Y00105000 > X00282000Y00097000 > ... > > Matthew Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately manually editing the file for boards that I am working on is not a good option. I don't just generate a file once and check it and be done. I run back and forth between the layout program and the Gerber viewer many times when I am trying to work on a problem. Having to hand edit any of the output makes it rather pointless. I can't find anything that would be a true standard for drill files. I guess the closest thing is the page at excellon.com, but it seems standard practices are not in compliance with their page. When I tried using Viewmate to look at these files the drill file was interpreted like a Gerber file and used 3.4 format! From the Excellon web page the format is always 2.4. But I was able to override that. The problem with Gerbv is that there is no way to manually set the tool values as they would do at the fab house I believe. Rick --------------090201020208090307030404 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 3/2/2012 7:45 AM, Matthew Sager wrote:

So is there any chance of getting some feedback on my issue with the tool? Is this the right place to ask? I used to post on geda-user but that list seems to have been deprecated in favor of this one for support and the developers have their own list now.

Rick

Hello Rick,

It looks like the Gerbv does not understand the tool definitions at the top of your file.

Here is an example of how the tool definitions usually look.

M48
INCH
T29C0.040 #this is for a 40 MIL hole
T28C0.035 #this is for a 35 MIL hole
%
T28
X012900Y009100
X010700Y010000
X010700Y011000
X020500Y009500
X020500Y010900
X012900Y014100
T29
X008196Y009433
X007196Y008933
X008196Y005033
M30

If you manually edit the header of the file to something like this it will probably work. I do not remember right now what G90 is for. Also, You might want to split the non-plated holes to another file.

M48
INCH
T01C0.008
T02C0.012
T03C0.038
etc....
%
G90
T01
X00291000Y00105000
X00282000Y00097000
...

Matthew

Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately manually editing the file for boards that I am working on is not a good option. I don't just generate a file once and check it and be done. I run back and forth between the layout program and the Gerber viewer many times when I am trying to work on a problem. Having to hand edit any of the output makes it rather pointless.

I can't find anything that would be a true standard for drill files. I guess the closest thing is the page at excellon.com, but it seems standard practices are not in compliance with their page. When I tried using Viewmate to look at these files the drill file was interpreted like a Gerber file and used 3.4 format! From the Excellon web page the format is always 2.4. But I was able to override that. The problem with Gerbv is that there is no way to manually set the tool values as they would do at the fab house I believe.

Rick
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