X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-help-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-help AT delorie DOT com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ham01.websitewelcome.com X-Spam-Flag2999: NO X-Spam-Level2999: X-Spam-Status2999: "No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=gibibit.com; h=Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-BWhitelist:X-Source:X-Source-Args:X-Source-Dir:X-Source-Sender:X-Source-Auth:X-Email-Count:X-Source-Cap; b=VFyOELKL4xDiaCfQuRpooKZJAkshmNvYIW+WrelcHR3c98tjA5OvWUHZkzUdKX/dlt205cvc/Jvnjgym+B0T2K06zF2UOUQneaJqyJNUyts+2H+gsZMPoAK2gjuvP2HS; Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:24:37 -0800 From: Colin D Bennett To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-help] PCB: How can i make pin with copper ring only on solder layer. (fwd) Message-ID: <20120203102437.67019413@svelte> In-Reply-To: <201202030128.q131SUC9025307@envy.delorie.com> References: <4F2B30DB DOT 6070606 AT jump-ing DOT de> <201202030128 DOT q131SUC9025307 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.24.6; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator297.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - delorie.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gibibit.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: c-67-185-118-84.hsd1.wa.comcast.net (svelte) [67.185.118.84]:58260 X-Source-Auth: colin AT gibibit DOT com X-Email-Count: 8 X-Source-Cap: c2t5bGVuO3NreWxlbjtnYXRvcjI5Ny5ob3N0Z2F0b3IuY29t Reply-To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-help AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 20:28:30 -0500 DJ Delorie wrote: > > > > Also copper on component side is useless. This board is 2 > > > sided > > > > Uhm. How can a board with copper on only one side be a 2-sided > > board? > > I think his point was that it's a "traditional" 2-sided board, but > since he's home-etching and hand-soldering it, there's no point > having copper on the component side *of the pin* since he won't > be soldering it, and it's not electrically connected to the > copper on the other side anyway. > > Leaving the copper annulus off the component side leaves more > room for traces between pins on the component side. True, but the main reason I like to have a proper footprint with pads only on the far side (bottom side for top-mounted TH components) is because it keeps me from accidentally routing a trace to the top side pad of that through-hole pin in pcb. The pcb program will happily allow it, because it thinks you're going to be plating through all holes for through-hole components! I make enough mistakes as it is, so I need all the help I can get to ensure I don't make any more. > Besides, a board has two sides whether there's copper on them or > not ;-) (the usual jokes about mobius flex pcbs excepted) > http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/mobiuscircuit Why did the chicken cross the mobius flex PCB? Wait for it--to get to the same side! Regards, Colin