X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to djgpp-bounces using -f From: "Rod Pemberton" Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp Subject: Re: DJGPP cross compilers for open-source hardware Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:03:38 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 50 Message-ID: References: <51fad91a-51fc-4fa5-83b4-33ca743333e1 AT googlegroups DOT com> <914cf387-8bab-48d9-b5c6-22ea5bddfdf0 AT googlegroups DOT com> <6bdd4389-629f-4167-9b50-f11b06dac241 AT googlegroups DOT com> NNTP-Posting-Host: CNsg4fVcCsvs3UaOgZtQCw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse AT aioe DOT org User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.16 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Bytes: 3944 To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 17:43:10 -0400, RayeR wrote: > You have EVGA Nvidia 7960GT 512MB, I belive that 79xx should be > supported with unofficial driver but maybe 512MB on PCIE card is the > issue so I rather preferred 256MB version (of 7900GT) which is not > so spreaded. I had an EVGA 7950GT. It was the first video card of mine with BGAs to unsolder. It worked for many years before it had problems. I got another six months out of it. Unlike years ago, I didn't have access to a industrial reflow soldering machine. I didn't want to destroy a convection oven by using it for reflow or melt plastic parts on the video card. Plastic has to be shielded from heat, or manually removed and replaced later. I also didn't have a heat gun either. So, I used a really high temperature Vidal Sassoon hair dryer and Pyrex oven dish, focusing heat on just the BGAs with the hair dryer, warming them up progressively, then heating solidly for a few minutes, followed by a few hours of air cooling. It would've been nice if I had some liquid flux e.g., technician's flux pen or an ndustrial flux for wave soldering, to help resolder, but I didn't have that either, and I couldn't get it locally. So, I did without flux too... The replacement card was an ASUS 8400GS Silent. Silent meant they only put a heat sink on the video chip and memory chips, i.e., NO fan. All the current versions you can buy of that card have a fan now... I should've known or suspected, but 486's ran without a fan for a decade. Why wouldn't video cards run fine too? That video card's BGA unsoldered also. It was a smaller card without much heat too. It had no high power PCI-Express connector either. So, why would it get hot? It was not compatible with Tihiy's drivers. The chipset manufacturer re-used the same number of an earlier chip for a newer chip. It's a different chip from that in the supported list for Tihiy's driver. The only difference in new and old naming is a space. For some reason, Linux supports some resolutions for the integrated video on this motherboard that I don't have available in SE with VBEMP. It might just be some missing registry keys for the higher resolutions. So, I think the lesson is:fans, fans, more fans, make sure there is a fan for it, ... ;-) Now, I'm worried about AMD's processor fan. Is it enough or do I need more cooling? They haven't had a problem so far, but video cards didn't for many years either... Rod Pemberton