X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to djgpp-bounces using -f X-Received: by 10.224.200.202 with SMTP id ex10mr35019226qab.8.1369061598642; Mon, 20 May 2013 07:53:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.41.67 with SMTP id d3mr1506586qel.17.1369061598613; Mon, 20 May 2013 07:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 07:53:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7b35d915-e8ea-484d-b541-e5cba7a5ee52@googlegroups.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse AT google DOT com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=90.181.199.10; posting-account=Q0wMHAoAAADjYrghh94FTf6YnbpTqZgp NNTP-Posting-Host: 90.181.199.10 References: <231bd669-af0b-4000-b7f0-7d26ab6b9664 AT googlegroups DOT com> <7b35d915-e8ea-484d-b541-e5cba7a5ee52 AT googlegroups DOT com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <66d33f14-2fc4-4056-b0c6-933a9c9033c8@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: to delorie From: RayeR Injection-Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 14:53:18 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bytes: 2410 Lines: 20 To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id r4KFF23d018234 Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: djgpp AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk > Win64 doesn't run > DOS apps. (Dunno why, supposedly a 486 emulator existed for non-x86 NT> > versions back in the day, but I guess it bitrotted to death.) MS isn't > too nostalgic regarding DOS. They prefer their own newer Win32 stuff. You should rather blame intel. They don't provide V86 mode equivalent beside 64-bit long mode. NTVDM was based on V86 mode - it make simple transitions between RM/PM. But under 64-bit long mode there's no such feature. This means that MS have to completly rework NTVDM as complete VM. But why should do this when there are VPC, Vbox, Vmware... I'm not a MS fan as you know but I must admit they're quite conservative when they keep NTVDM functionality up to Windows 8 32-bit! They might drop it much sooner. But bacause 32bit supports V86 there's no need extra effort to port NTVDM to newer 32-bit windows (of course with some stupid limitations)... >Jim Michaels No way under 64-bit win. Simply use some VM or if you really don't need 64-bit OS (some realy heavy menory consuming apps) then use 32-bit windows (also you may use PAE crack for Vista/W7 to utilize >4GB). Or make multiboot.