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Subject: Re: Python, Perl, Lua, Ruby -- anybody??
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 14:05:37 -0700 (PDT)
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Hi,

On May 16, 10:20=A0pm, Eli Zaretskii <e DOT  DOT  DOT  AT gnu DOT org> wrote:
> > From: Rugxulo <rugx DOT  DOT  DOT  AT gmail DOT com>
> > Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 15:16:25 -0700 (PDT)
>
> > Perl 5.6.1 was like half the size of 5.8.8.
>
> > perl561 =A0exe =A0 =A0 =A0 1,192,448 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Dec,15,2003 =A0=
 11:03:24pm =A0 A...
> > perl588 =A0exe =A0 =A0 =A0 4,330,496 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0May,11,2007 =A0=
 03:03:20am =A0 A...
>
> Could it be that perl588.exe is unstripped?

No, I double-checked, it's not. To prove it, I made sure both were
unpacked and repacked using "upx --best":

perl561  exe       473,140            Dec,15,2003   11:03:24pm   A...
perl588  exe       1,559,976          May,11,2007   03:03:20am   A...

> > GDB 7.0 will include libpython for scripting, and we already have
> > PythonD 2.4.2 ported to DJGPP, but I've never tested it. However, the
> > weird thing is that GDB's CVS only shows about 8 files in /python/, so
> > either they managed to greatly simplify it or maybe it's not as
> > bloated as it looks.
>
> GDB does not include Python itself, the files you see are just the
> implementation of GDB features that are built on top of libpython.
> libpython itself should be installed separately.

Crap, well that sucks. See, some projects do include the scripting
language in their source tree (e.g. DC:SS with Lua).

> > 207,202 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0lua-5.1.4.tar.gz
>
> > Now I know why Lua is so popular, it's tiny!! Why they didn't just use
> > that instead of Python for GDB 7.0 I'll never know.
>
> At the time, I tried to convince GDB developers to use Lua, but I
> failed. =A0You can search the archives of GDB developers' list for the
> discussions and arguments.

Yeah, I see the discussion, but it doesn't seem too convincing. It
seems moreso because one guy wanted it more than the other despite the
extra difficulty. It's probably possible to use both, actually, maybe
that's the way to go, but it might be overkill. It's not that I'm
opposed to Python, the real hurdle is whether it's relatively easy to
build!