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From: "Gisle Vanem" <giva AT bgnett DOT no>
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Subject: Re: Window Flicker
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 00:23:42 +0200
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"Eli Zaretskii" <eliz AT gnu DOT org> said:

> The problem is that Windows XP (and all other descendants of the
> Windows NT family) switch the emulated console to the standard DOS
> dimensions as soon as they detect a DOS program that accesses the
> video memory directly.  The DJGPP ports of Less and `ls' do that, so
> you get punished by M$ for running DOS programs.

I am amased that not more people do as I do :)
Use CMD/4NT strictly for running Win32 console and GUI mode 
programs. Use command.com or 4DOS strictly for DOS programs.
That way one can have completely separate environments;
Loaded either from %SystemRoot\system32\autoexec.nt for
DOS/djgpp programs or from 'My computer | Properties ..' for the 
rest. This way I can run djgpp's gcc and MingW's gcc with no conflicts.
And no flicker and dissappearing scroll-bar.

BTW. The only DOS program I use in 4NT is the djgpp man 1.3 program 
(since I didn't find any good Cygwin or MingW substitute). Good job Eli,
but this has it quirks.

--gv