X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to djgpp-bounces using -f From: gswork AT mailcity DOT com (gswork) Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp Subject: Re: DJGPP-Tutorial? Date: 19 Dec 2003 01:20:15 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 33 Message-ID: <81f33a98.0312190120.48ccfa3e@posting.google.com> References: <3fba3621$0$11870$9b4e6d93 AT newsread2 DOT arcor-online DOT net> <3FBADA99 DOT 696417EA AT yahoo DOT com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.128.229.253 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1071825616 5384 127.0.0.1 (19 Dec 2003 09:20:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse AT google DOT com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:20:16 +0000 (UTC) To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com CBFalconer wrote in message news:<3FBADA99 DOT 696417EA AT yahoo DOT com>... > Wolfgang Schlegel wrote: > > > > I just downloaded DJGPP and now try to get familiar with it. I'm > > experiencing the common beginner problems and don't want to > > molest any newsgroup with thousands of stupid questions. I really > > do RTFM, but it takes long to find particular information in all > > that plenty. Does anybody know some kind of tutorial dealing with > > the essentials of Environment Variables, Library Search Paths, > > Makefiles, Startup Librarys and such kind of stuff? > > I suspect the fundamental problem is that users today are no > longer familiar with use of the DOS command line, autoexec.bat and > config.sys, etc. Thus many fundamental concepts are missing and > have been lost in the pablum of GUI interfaces. Unix users are > probably better able to handle MsDos command lines than are > Windoze users today. > > People like myself have been using these things for so long that > they are second nature, and thus we don't see newbie problems, > although we can answer questions. Maybe the best tutorial would > be old DOS books predating the onslaught of windoze. Can it be so fundamental though? All i did was read the install notes, in essense saying to unzip somewhere suitable and add two lines to autoexec.bat restart and go. It worked a charm. Although I've used DOS arcana often enough to be comfortable around it having been a pre-gui user too, I didn't feel that that experience was essential to setting up DJGPP. Even compiling allegro was as simple as 'make'. DJGPP and most extras are packaged up very well indeed. I suppose if someone has never used a CLI it might be a jump in mindset, but that does surprise me - especially with programming tools.