X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mailnull set sender to djgpp-bounces using -f From: "infonews" Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp References: <%pUq8.117748$1S3 DOT 3748632 AT twister1 DOT libero DOT it> Subject: Re: Dos shell ,dos box ,MS-Dos ...... Lines: 59 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 21:02:58 +0200 NNTP-Posting-Host: 151.30.164.1 X-Complaints-To: abuse AT libero DOT it X-Trace: twister1.libero.it 1017947034 151.30.164.1 (Thu, 04 Apr 2002 21:03:54 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 21:03:54 MET DST Organization: [Infostrada] To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com As you say the Dos functions are mainly reduced at the boot phase and to create the emergency boot . Then Djgpp environment ,Rhide (my little programs !!!) work over Windows ME . But have to be started in the dos box ( right ? ) or dos shell ( right ?) offered by Windows ME ( OK ?) that at this time is the operating system. Thanks for your kind answer . "Hans-Bernhard Broeker" ha scritto nel messaggio news:a8h67c$h21$1 AT nets3 DOT rz DOT RWTH-Aachen DOT DE... > infonews wrote: > [...] > > explain > > me what is Dos that is in Windows ME ( operating system on my PC).It cannot > > be an operating system (that is windows ME ! ). > > It can be. And it is, to some extent. The first stages of booting > your PC, even in Windows ME, are still executed by an instance of DOS. > It's needed, because the first stages of the Windows ME bootup process > itself can't access your harddisks all on their own. They need and > use the services of DOS for that. > > The boot block of your harddisk loads and executes IO.SYS, which is > the operating system kernel of DOS. MSDOS.SYS used to be the next > binary part to be loaded and executed, but sometime around Windows 95, > M$ converted that one into a configuration textfile. Go have a look > at it, some time. > > This DOS instance then proceeds to fire up the Windows systems, which > replaces just about all of the services of that DOS kernel by its own > drivers. So DOS has been reduced to a slightly glorified "bootstrap > loader" for the Win32 system. But it's still there. > > In all earlier versions of the "9x" series of Windows, you could > prevent the startup of Windows itself from happening automatically, by > putting certain entries into MSDOS.SYS, CONFIG.SYS and/or > AUTOEXEC.BAT. But ME does it unconditionally, so it *appears* like > there was no separate DOS anymore. That was done mainly to satisfy > the claims by MS' marketing droids about how ME would be the "first > consumer Windows without a DOS sitting under the hood". But if you > get down to the technical facts, there still is --- only its > camouflage gear has become more elaborate. > > The emergency boot disk the system will create for you, e.g., still is > a pure and uncrippled DOS system. Go figure. > > > -- > Hans-Bernhard Broeker (broeker AT physik DOT rwth-aachen DOT de) > Even if all the snow were burnt, ashes would remain.