Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 08:24:53 +0200
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> From: Robert Neinast <neinast AT worldnet DOT att DOT net>
> Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp
> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 20:19:04 GMT
> 
> One more question: Is there any way to start up bash so that
> the default is "binary", not "text" mode

No.  Bash has nothing to do with this: each program needs to to set
the text/binary mode by itself, because the CRLF -> LF conversions
are done by the library, not by the OS.  So the text/binary mode
cannot be inherited to child processes, and therefore Bash cannot
force the programs it runs into some specific mode.

> It really annoys me that programs like
> ls, wc, and od count those \r\n when its only \n that's there
> (i.e., they give false counts).

Hm??  Those \r\n pairs _are_ there in the file, wc doesn't invent
them.  Try running a file through dtou, and you will see that wc
reports rediced counts, and the file's size on disk also gets smaller.
wc reads its files in binary mode.