Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:11:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200108140411.AAA25461@envy.delorie.com> X-Authentication-Warning: envy.delorie.com: dj set sender to dj AT envy DOT delorie DOT com using -f From: DJ Delorie To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com In-reply-to: <3b78a143@zfree.co.nz> (matthew.bolitho@zfree.co.nz) Subject: Re: Windows 2000 issues References: <3b78a143 AT zfree DOT co DOT nz> Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: djgpp AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk > Someone did mention that it could be fixed by getting development > source, and then recompiling... has this worked? Anyone got it > going? We're making progress. It depends on the specific bug, and the package built with the workarounds. > Maybe (I know you folks are busy) the DJGPP people could provide us > with a fix. Even if its a temporary one, until the next release > fixes it better. Well, it would be nice, but we must *have* a fix first, and we're actively working on finding a fix that works (1) correctly and (2) on all known platforms djgpp supports. A number of patches have been added to the CVS respository, but it's dangerous to make a new release until we test it enough, and for most of the bugs we'd have to rebuild many packages also (gcc, rhide, etc). It's not a simple thing. The only other thing we could provide is a source patch, and you can get those from CVS or the mail archives already. > The fact is, Win9x is dead now, it will be Win XP next time around. > Win2000 is at SP2 and has been around for 12-18months now. Maybe > its time to support it? Maybe its time to stop complaining about > "bugs" in Microsoft stuff, and just provide a godamn workaround. > Complaining about the fact that its Microsofts "fault" because its > their bug doesnt fix it. Please be a little more understanding and less sarcastic. These bugs are subtle and nasty and we *are* working on them. They *are* bugs[*] in MS's software, and we're putting a lot of effort into working around them. It's not easy. Charles Sandmann has even come out of "retirement" to help us with some of them. Remember that MS does *NOT* want legacy dos programs to live. They'd prefer non-MS programs die too. We get no support from them, and each release has even worse support for DOS apps. Eventually they'll drop DOS support completely, and there will be nothing we will be able to do at that point to support DJGPP on it. [*] Well, I guess if you never document anything, nothing can technically be a "bug". But each release acts differently in subtle ways, and, to me, inconsistency is itself a bug in a public (albeit unpublished) API.