From: invalid AT erehwon DOT invalid (Graaagh the Mighty) Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp Subject: Re: DJGPP reserves wrong int size Organization: Low Charisma Anonymous Message-ID: <3b3d97f4.363378277@news.primus.ca> References: <3b3b5513 DOT 215163061 AT news DOT primus DOT ca> <3B3B96DE DOT F1C32A49 AT phekda DOT freeserve DOT co DOT uk> <3b3bf2f8 DOT 255590145 AT news DOT primus DOT ca> <1659-Fri29Jun2001095837+0300-eliz AT is DOT elta DOT co DOT il> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 43 Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 09:18:18 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.176.153.6 X-Complaints-To: news AT primus DOT ca X-Trace: news1.tor.primus.ca 993892978 207.176.153.6 (Sat, 30 Jun 2001 05:22:58 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 05:22:58 EDT To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:58:37 +0300, "Eli Zaretskii" sat on a tribble, which squeaked: >> Okay, I'll grant that. It looked suspiciously like a command, rather >> than a suggestion, the way it was worded. > >``A command''? All it says is "please read them". And I though _I_ >was having problems with understanding written English. "There are Intel reference manuals on this, please read them." comes off sounding at best like a request to read something along with a vague implication that I should *already* have read them. And the terseness betrays some kind of impatience that also carries the suggestion that "yet another newbie just asked a stupid question" or something. I can't see that kind of attitude, or wording that suggests that attitude, being justified except when the reference involved is the newsgroup FAQ, and even then "Your question is answered in the FAQ. Please read it. If your news server doesn't currently have a copy in the group, there's one at http://rtfm.mit.edu/foo/bar.html." is far preferable to "There's a FAQ for this newsgroup. Read it." >> "Not sure anyone here can sum it up in just a few words, but all of >> the gory details are in the reference manuals at http://foo, though >> I'm not sure you'll want to slog through all of those." > >That's what I said. Not quite -- the tone was different and the URL was absent. (Absent a URL, if someone says "manual" they're liable to think "book", followed shortly by "how expensive -- and can I find it?"...) >This is considered common knowlege these days, like the need to look >up the FAQ. The FAQ alone should be the "common knowledge". Some language or another, some programming knowledge, and the FAQ's contents are what can reasonably be assumed of a reader of the newsgroup. -- Bill Gates: "No computer will ever need more than 640K of RAM." -- 1980 "There's nobody getting rich writing software that I know of." -- 1980 "This antitrust thing will blow over." -- 1998 Combine neo, an underscore, and one thousand sixty-one to make my hotmail addy.