Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 09:52:32 +0200 (WET) From: Andris Pavenis To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: Is anyone still actively developing RHIDE? Is the latest version Pavenis's modified 1.4.7.5? In-Reply-To: <901vga$93i$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: djgpp AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Marp wrote: > "DJ Delorie" wrote in message > news:200011290111 DOT UAA17230 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com... > > > > > > However, as long as Andris doesn't do that, no one can upload his > work. > > > > > > Why not? > > > > Because it wouldn't be nice, that's why. > > Next logical question: How is it "not nice"? Eli's post suggested to me that > if someone were to do so, they would somehow be violating the GPL license > (which RHIDE uses for it's terms) or violating some rule for distributing > files on simtel. There was one reason which prevented distribution of last updates of RHIDE through DJGPP distribution on SimtelNet: absence of official DJGPP port of GDB-5.0 at that time (You need GDB-5.0 sources to build RHIDE from sources). This was against rules DJ follows. Some time ago I uploaded my build of GDB-5.0 and suggested to put original FSF sources together with binaries. It was not accepted, so after some time Eli uploaded his build of GDB-5.0 together with source archives for DJGPP As result we don't more have this problem and I uploaded RHIDE binary and source archives to ftp.delorie.com > > To help you better understand where I'm coming from, I'll tell you why I > think there's nothing "not nice" about it. Andris received the RHIDE > distribution, modified it, and then authorized it's redistribution (by > redistributing it himself). In order for him to do that without breaching > the license, he must allow the same freedom in redistribution of his copy as > was allowed when he received his copy. So by making his modified copy > available, he has effectively given us permission to redistribute it (on > simtel or wherever). > > My point is this. Asking him if it's okay would be asking him a question > that he has, in effect, already answered. Of course everybody has right to redistribute software covered by GPL or LGPL licence, but also DJ have right to choose which should upload software for distribution and whether he will distribute some particular piece of software at all and which conditions are required. > As for the rules of simtel, I don't know what they are, so if I'm somehow > way off with my point, please tell me. If I am somehow wrong I will concede, > but I can't unless you tell me how I am wrong. It would also help if Eli > would answer the question since it was directed at him, but I don't think > he's even read it yet. Andris