Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:35:47 +0200
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> From: Hans-Bernhard Broeker <broeker AT physik DOT rwth-aachen DOT de>
> Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp
> Date: 17 Nov 2000 12:15:33 GMT
> 
> MinGW just doesn't provide enough of POSIX compatibility to be able
> to support any of the more advanced GNU programs.

Someone posted here several months ago an announcement about a Windows
library based on DJGPP's libc (search for PW32 in the DJGPP
mail-archives page).  Using that library, it should be easy to port
many GNU tools by simply using the DJGPP ported sources.

> Gcc works, since it's essentially limited to bare C features, but I've
> yet to see a 'make' or 'gdb' compiled with MinGW that really
> works. Let alone an Emacs.

There's a working MinGW port of Make (the patches almost got submitted
to the Make maintainer), and the next version of Emacs will compile
with MinGW.  But it is true, in general, that the number of ports is
not large, and they do not present a coherent toolchain like DJGPP and
Cygwin do.

> [ObDJGPP: Last I looked, Cygwin was still a long shot behind DJGPP in
> terms of daily usability. Their bash port is just about useless for
> interactive work, IMHO.]

You may wish to look again.  AFAIK, Cygwin is much better lately,
since DJ started to work on it ;-)