From: Stan Moore <smoore AT exis DOT net>
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp
Subject: Re: Common DOS programs in DJGPP
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 20:41:23 -0400
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 19:43:33 GMT, Damian Yerrick
<Bullcr_pd_yerrick AT hotmail DOT comRemoveBullcr_p> wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 08:56:48 -0400, Stan Moore <smoore AT exis DOT net>
>wrote:
>
>>You can do a simple test to see the difference, boot to dos only and
>>try a console app.
>
>Or right click and choose Properties from Wintendo 9x to see if it
>gives you pif options or not.

True enough, I only mentioned  booting because I've seen people argue
about console vs dos apps and watching an app not run seems to help
convince some people some of the time.

>A true console app only needs a main().  msvcrt handles most of the
>rest of that.

My post probably gave a wrong impression here and I'm glad you cleared
things up for any lurkers. My memory was clouded by some pretty hairy
things I was working on a while ago. On those projects, we were
pushing the system in ways it was never intended to go.

>>Now on the other hand, some compilers even MS will let you create a
>>"console" app that is really just a dos app running with dpmi.
>
>Visual C++ 1.52 right?

Yes :)
>
>>I haven't seen a lot of actual console apps myself.
>
>hello.exe compiled with mingw
>java.exe
>javac.exe
>Cygwin (gcc.exe, bash.exe, *utils)
>Mingw gcc.exe
>MSVC cl.exe

I didn't mean I hadn't seen any, just that in the sea of windows
programs console apps are just a few drops. I think that state of
affairs is bad, by the way. I'd like to see a lot more attention paid
to the windows command line in general and especially to make things
easier to use the best of GUI and command line thinking. I'm a command
line kinda guy so I admit I'm biased, of course it's probably a common
bias for many of us using DJGPP :)