Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000916183750.00c377a0@mail.subdimension.com> X-Sender: matt DOT l AT mail DOT subdimension DOT com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 18:46:07 -0700 To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com From: Matt Lewandowsky Subject: Re: The Future of DJGPP In-Reply-To: References: <967904615 DOT 832712 AT shelley DOT paradise DOT net DOT nz> <8t32rsodgkia3rk2rok5fn57vcgta55nc5 AT 4ax DOT com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: djgpp AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 14.04 09/16/2000, Kendall Bennett wrote: >I am coming in late on this one ;-) Same here... ;) >In article , >Bullcr_pd_yerrick AT hotmail DOT comRemoveBullcr_p says... > > > >moderately good help (easy to find what you want, assuming it's > > >there), excellent code generator, it will also be open source. > > > > But will it be truly Free? Some so-called "open source" software > > isn't. > >Oh it will be truly free. Sybase realises this is important because I >drummed it into their brains when we discussed this early in the piece. >Whatever licese they choose (which likely will be one dreamed up by >their laywers), it will pass the guidlines on OpenSource.org and will be >sanctioned by them. > >If I get my way I want to see the core compiler and utilities all under >a GPL license, with the C/C++ runtime libraries under a Mozilla Public >License type license (or perhaps BSX/MIT license). Because of Watcom's >proprietry background, LGPL licensing for the C/C++ runtime libraries >will cause major headaches for existing users of the product. Hmmm... IIRC, the FSF has issues with OpenSource.org since it is possible to make non-free (as in beer) licenses still. Just because you give source, it doesn't mean that you can't retain complete control over it. Think of the old Unix source code licenses. (Pre-BSD...) Also, more recently Apple's Open Source License. Apple's license said something along the lines of you can't even modify the source for your own use. (I think that's correct. I disiked the license. But it was far overly restrictive. Even if they abandoned the program they still owned the source and all patches submitted by anyone. And no one could use it.) Make it FSF-compatible, and it will keep everyone happy. :) But BSD's license isn't bad IMHO. It's worked for a long time now. And why would Lesser GPL licensing be bad? It allows distribution without source in a commercial environment. (PLEASE correct me if I'm incorrect there.) But it's nice to see that Sybase is seeing the light finally. - --Matt -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBOcQiX+oMko8dOmunEQJR7ACgvd9GE6ldN+00UdRELninauHPT5cAn1m4 3X0xh+xM9fSMywbR0Cmfmobh =/1R2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----