From: JohnT Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.os.msdos.djgpp Subject: Re: Borland 4.5 C/C++ compiler problem Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 13:16:45 -0700 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 56 Message-ID: <39BBEC2D.26D13339@inXSformatics.net> References: <8n65c7$708 AT nntp DOT seflin DOT org> <39B4FA72 DOT 4943D810 AT inXSformatics DOT net> <39b57742_5 AT news DOT cadvision DOT com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-189.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win16; I) To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Nope. Unmovable files/clusters show up running Defrag under DOS with no other programs running, no files open. The unmovable areas appear to be produced by running DOS programs under Windows. Maybe Windows makes swap files for each DOS application that does file writing. Someone who knows Windows technical features might be a person to answer this. I'm using Win 3.11 and it probably happens in Win 9x as well. If this is news to readers here, maybe what's happening is undocumented. John Natman wrote: > As far as I know "unmoveable" means that the file is in use and is "locked". > Close the file that is in question and the sectors will be moveable again... > (or just boot with a plain boot disk). > > Natman > > "JohnT" wrote in message > news:39B4FA72 DOT 4943D810 AT inXSformatics DOT net... > > > > Damian Yerrick wrote: > > > > > On 13 Aug 2000 12:47:03 GMT, d021317c AT dc DOT seflin DOT org (Marshall Price) > > > wrote: > > > > > > > 32 is such a *large* number! > > > > Besides, I discovered DEFRAG was reporting more and more of my hard > > > >drive "unmovable." When I got away from DJGPP and CWSDPMI and GO32 (or > > > >*something*), I stopped having those problems. > > > > > > This is strange. comp.os.msdos.djgpp added > > > > > > -- > > > Damian Yerrick > > > > I was browsing around comp.os.msdos.djgpp and found the problem > > of parts of the disk being marked "unmoveable". I'm not sure, but > > think this may be due to DOS sessions running under Windows and > > getting some kind of undocumented crap written to files or clusters > > by Windows. My system had two hard drives for a while, one used > > as backup, and I would get rid of the unmoveable clusters by doing > > a backup, reformat and copying all the files back. The exact flag > > that causes the "unmoveable" designation I don't know about, but > > documented file attributes don't have a bit that means "unmoveable". > > Anyone got a good guess on this? > > > > I think one of the programs that causes this is a DOS text editor, > > not part of DJGPP. > > > > John > > > >