From: alain AT qnx DOT com (Alain Magloire) Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp Subject: Re: Re: It's back, but the ... Date: 16 Feb 2000 17:28:06 GMT Organization: QNX Software Systems Lines: 48 Message-ID: <88emn6$ft6$1@gateway.qnx.com> References: <7r4q4.45719$45 DOT 2400743 AT news2 DOT rdc1 DOT on DOT home DOT com> NNTP-Posting-Host: qnx.com X-Trace: gateway.qnx.com 950722086 16294 209.226.137.1 (16 Feb 2000 17:28:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet AT qnx DOT com NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Feb 2000 17:28:06 GMT X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Andrew Jones (luminous-is AT home DOT com) wrote: : > >And the GPL definition of "free" is definately not what the normal : > >person thinks of free. : > : > So how should I say it? It's free in both senses (speech and beer). : I'm not sure what the GPL definition of free is myself (my brain's a little : foggy right now). Isn't it something like free for use, not free software? What don't you read it instead of spreading misinformation. : > >I'm not including libraries others have written (Allegro, they all : > >scream, is successful), I'm talking about popular, well used software. : > : > GCC was used for a popular OS (GNU/Linux). Most of the Doom ports are : > for DJGPP. : GCC was *written* for a popular OS. There's a subtle difference. And the : reason that so many people use DJGPP for these projects is that they don't : have/don't want to spend hundreds (or thousands) on a C compiler. DJGPP is : free. Freedom is wonderful, but doesn't make a product great by default. : Although I do agree that GCC, and hence DJGPP *are* : great. :) May I know to which OS that you claim "gcc was *written*" for ? I will follow it up to GNU, I'm sure they needed a good laugh. BTW free software does not make it great. There are tones of badly written {free,share,commercial}ware out there. If you ever move out of your x86 centric world you'll find that when you need a good compiler for PPC, MIPS, ARM, SH .... you will have to consider gcc, not because it's free (that is irrelevant) but because it is a good C/C++ compiler period. : > : > Better than any other compiler in its price range. : As I said, freeness doesn't automatically make a good product. Right, and it does not make it bad either. You'll find many times free version better quality, {Free,Open,Net}BSD, GNU/Linux, Gnu packages etc .. comes to mind of system that strive to give quality software. -- au revoir, alain ---- Aussi haut que l'on soit assis, on est toujours assis que sur son cul !!!