Sender: root AT delorie DOT com Message-ID: <37D51F41.D9D9F0A6@inti.gov.ar> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 11:20:49 -0300 From: salvador Organization: INTI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.38 i686) X-Accept-Language: es-AR, en, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: WARNING: DOS is about to die. References: <7quo1t$94k$1 AT solomon DOT cs DOT rose-hulman DOT edu> <37D2ECE3 DOT 9BB2B63E AT unb DOT ca> <37D46EBF DOT 22AAC1C4 AT hmc DOT edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Nate Eldredge wrote: > Incidentally, I have heard that various people working under temporary > NDA's are already porting GCC to the Merced, so when the Merced comes > out, GCC may already work on it. Cygnus signed an agreement with Intel to add IA64 support to gcc, at least my sources says that. > > Word from Microsoft is that they will not be able to get > > a 64-bit version of Windows out until ~2003, and it will be a complete re-write > > (because of the large penalty for executing 32-bit code on the Merced > > processor). > > "Complete rewrite" sounds unlikely to me. There is already NT for the > Alpha, and I doubt it was a complete rewrite. Related to the thread: Microsoft have an NT that runs over Merced, was presented in an expo. some months ago. Of course: the Merced chip is emulated, not a real one, is some emulator from Intel. > The 32-bit code can be got rid of just by recompiling, and I doubt the > architecture differences require *that* much work. But I suppose it's > possible that Microsoft's code is so screwed up that it really is > necessary... And I think this theory (so screwed up ...) is wrong. M$ did a lot of things wrong in NT, but also did a lot of things in the right way. They need to rewrite *only* the HAL, the rest of the kernel doesn't use any architecture dependant stuff. No direct I/O, no direct protection mechanism, nothing, all is done using the HAL=Hardware Abstraction Layer, and that's one of the reasons because NT is so slow. SET -- Salvador Eduardo Tropea (SET). (Electronics Engineer) Visit my home page: http://welcome.to/SetSoft or http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/6552/ Alternative e-mail: set-soft AT usa DOT net set AT computer DOT org set AT ieee DOT org set-soft AT bigfoot DOT com Address: Curapaligue 2124, Caseros, 3 de Febrero Buenos Aires, (1678), ARGENTINA Phone: +(5411) 4759 0013