From: Nate Eldredge Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.os.msdos.djgpp Subject: Re: WARNING: DOS is about to die. Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 18:47:43 -0700 Organization: Harvey Mudd College Lines: 43 Message-ID: <37D46EBF.22AAC1C4@hmc.edu> References: <7quo1t$94k$1 AT solomon DOT cs DOT rose-hulman DOT edu> <37D2ECE3 DOT 9BB2B63E AT unb DOT ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: mercury.st.hmc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: nntp1.interworld.net 936668869 92124 134.173.45.219 (7 Sep 1999 01:47:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet AT nntp1 DOT interworld DOT net NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 01:47:49 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12pre4 i586) To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Endlisnis wrote: > > Damian Yerrick wrote: > > > RUMOR that may have quite a bit of fact to it: > > > > Windows Millennium is Micr0$oft's last 9x kernel based Windows version. I > > have heard rumors that Micr0$oft will be switching to an NT kernel with its > > inferior DOS box. So how will DOS tools such as DJGPP, Allegro, etc. > > continue to survive? > > Well, DJGPP does work on NT. It doesn't have LFN support, and it can't use > SVGA graphics modes. And I find it very annoying how slow the screen-updates > are on an NT machine running something like RHIDE. (it's no fault of the > program, it's NT waiting too long). > > Either way, the 64-bit intel chips will go mass-market in late 2000/early > 2001. And many other companies will follow suite, so I expect a 64-bit version > of GCC will be born. "Be born"? Seen an Alpha lately? Guess what compiler it uses? Incidentally, I have heard that various people working under temporary NDA's are already porting GCC to the Merced, so when the Merced comes out, GCC may already work on it. > Word from Microsoft is that they will not be able to get > a 64-bit version of Windows out until ~2003, and it will be a complete re-write > (because of the large penalty for executing 32-bit code on the Merced > processor). "Complete rewrite" sounds unlikely to me. There is already NT for the Alpha, and I doubt it was a complete rewrite. The 32-bit code can be got rid of just by recompiling, and I doubt the architecture differences require *that* much work. But I suppose it's possible that Microsoft's code is so screwed up that it really is necessary... -- Nate Eldredge neldredge AT hmc DOT edu