From: mschulter AT DOT value DOT net (M. Schulter) Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp Subject: Re: unusual? Date: 25 Aug 1997 00:11:09 GMT Organization: Value Net Internetwork Services Inc. Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5tqiit$mff$1@vnetnews.value.net> References: <33FFA678 DOT 3DD6F53E AT snet DOT net> NNTP-Posting-Host: value.net To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Precedence: bulk Joe Havelick (joe DOT h AT snet DOT net) wrote: : Does anyone know why the Djgpp group is under the os.msdos group, I : thought that os stood for operating system. Hi, there, and please let me emphasize that this is not really an answer, let alone an _official_ statement (that's up to DJ and other DJGPP developers), just a quick opinion from one DJGPP user. Basically I would say -- just for myself -- that DJGPP comes close to being an OS in its own rights, and more specifically an implementation of GNU tools in MS-DOS that I'm tempted to call DJGIX -- DJ's GNU *IX, maybe). First of all, DJGPP now includes ports of many major GNU UNIX-like utilities for all-around computing as well as development and compiling: the textutils, fileutils, diffutils, idutils, bash, less, and so on. Also, it includes GNU Emacs, which has been called just about an OS in its own right . Also, one really neat feature of DJGPP I'm just now discovering: GAS, the GNU assembler, that actually makes it possible to learn and use i-386 assembly language in MS-DOS using the classic UNIX-like AT&T syntax. It's fair to caution here that GAS is designed especially to process output from GCC, and so people writing their own assembler need to be a bit cautious about debugging -- but still, a great feature that brings DJGPP users closer to UNIX style. In short, DJGPP covers most of the territory of an OS, and it runs in MS-DOS -- so I find the newsgroup name just about right. Most respectfully, Margo Schulter mschulter AT value DOT net