From: "Gregorio Hankiewicz" Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp Subject: Re: Quake vs. Demos Date: 31 May 1997 12:19:37 GMT Organization: Unisource Espana NEWS SERVER Lines: 39 Message-ID: <01bc6dbd$c050d260$cbb4e0c2@pentium-120> References: <199705302154 DOT QAA24261 AT sendit DOT sendit DOT NoDak DOT edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: info203.jet.es To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Precedence: bulk > OK, I am officially kicking all of you off of this thread unless you go > back and read the messages :) Oooops!! Reading... :-) > Look at the Into the Shadows demo, that was coded by demo > coders who have now begun writing games... Into the Shadows, if it's ever > released, will have a 3D engine unlike anything anybody's ever seen, > simple because of Triton's TAPE (Triton Advanced Physics Engine). It's > faster, better and more realistic than anything I've ever seen. If you > haven't seen this demo (itsdemo.exe or .zip I believe), LOOK at it. Yeah. I saw the demo maybe half year or one year before quake was released and though : "Woah, imagine if the demo was playable" And then I repeated it the next month, the next again, and again, and now it's like ages since that and I don't think they will EVER do that game. Why? Maybe because of money. Maybe because of code problems... who knows. The point is that I think they won't do it because maybe their demo is the BEST you can see and that TAPE is the best you can imagine, but it's not a game. It happens lot of times. I remember trying more than 5 different HYPER-FAST graphics/sound libraries, to find that I couldn't use them properly inside a game. Then I found Allegro, which a LOT of ppl say It's crap because it's not SO fast, but hey, it's damn easy to use (hey Shawn, did I mention before "I LOVE YOU"?? ;-) ) I guess the same happens with real programmers. There are some who are the best and fastest, but can only code demos and that stuff. And there are others who maybe aren't the best ones, but they REALLY MAKE games. In my opinion, I prefer to MAKE games, even if someone says it's crap because his demo is FAR faster than my game. -- Have a nice day :) G.A. Hankiewicz gregorio AT jet DOT es, http://web.jet.es/gregorio