From: Bryson Borg Newsgroups: comp.lang.asm.x86,comp.lang.c,comp.os.msdos.djgpp,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.os.os2.programmer.misc Subject: Re: FreeWin95 Project Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 11:16:08 -0400 Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 74 Message-ID: <%arlSzMJck@whitelight.slithytoves.com> References: <01bc07a2$6d6d3060$46031fc8 AT nextsite-server> <5h7v13$7q9 AT james DOT freenet DOT hamilton DOT on DOT ca> <5ibfba$brg AT james DOT freenet DOT hamilton DOT on DOT ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: as5100-2-a13.nb.hmc.psu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp On 7 Apr 1997, Scott Nudds wrote: > (John Adelsberger) wrote: > : I can fit a nice Linux setup into less than 40 megs, and it will run > : better than windoze on equivelent hardware. With X it goes up to about > : 80, but that's with a full C/C++ compiler set, an assembler, a whole > : slew of editors, clients for every network service imaginable, a full > : TCP/IP suite, and so on. > > What a shame you can't use the OS for anything. > hmmm, i'm a medical student and the only time my computer doesn't run linux is late at night every now and then when i want to play warcraft to wind down. i do reports using lyx (a WYSIWYG front-end to LaTeX)...if i want to i can do research in the library, telnet in to my home machine from the library's computers, and compose my work remotely--a virtual laptop wit no risk of theft...i can browse the internet with netscape, receive email from my POP3 account, and run my medical cdroms in ARDI's mac emulator. i'm a normal human being, and end user, and i can be very productive using linux. plus, its a lot of fun. plus, when something goes wrong, i have the tools to fix it. i've spent many hours with friends' ill-behaving win95 machines when, at my wit's end, all i could recommend was reformatting and re-installing the OS. Micro$haft has done everything they could to create a "black box" because it increases usability by Joe Q. Public, and because it maximizes revenue (third party add-ons to help correct basic flaws in the OS yield licensing fees back to redmond). of course, this is a liability with all commercial OSes. i'm not too sure i would be happy using solaris x86 instead of win95. from my viewpoint, my satisfaction with linux stems more from its open development model than it just being unix. > > Scott Nudds: > : : Twice the size of my windows directory. > > (John Adelsberger) wrote: > : Which has no X, no gcc/g++, no assembler, no emacs, no TeX, no Ghostscript, > : and so on. > > X is crap. C is crap, Emacs is crap, Tex is crap, Ghostscript is crap. 4000 years of western culture and this is what passes for an argument in today's culture? you deserve microsoft. > In short, Unix is crap. Hundreds of millions of Windows users have > spoken. in certain ages, the plague has been extremely popular, too. > > Oh, I don't know. This machine has been on now for 12 hours without > a problem. I have yet to encounter a problem since installation. hee hee. 12 hours? hee hee. really, i'm sorry that i have propagated this thread. i've had bad experiences with windows, but maybe some people haven't, and i respect that. i'm happy with linux, some people are happy with win95, some people are happy with MacOs (god bless 'em). let's hope that there will always be options. the only reason i have any personal dislike of microsoft is that they seem hell bent on running every other option out of town. this would be a Bad Thing(tm)...just as it would be if all of a sudden coca-cola tried to eliminate pepsi and 7-up. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Bryson Borg := bdb151 AT psu DOT edu All are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusions is called a philosopher. - Ambrose Bierce