Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:54:16 +0200 (EET) From: Adrian Oboroc To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Subject: RHIDE -- joy of my life :) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, dear *DJGPP* folks! I love you all... But this is a kind of offtopic :) I do not read my mail very often last time (I have some tests to pass in the University), and so, may be I've missed some important notes about *RHIDE*. It seams to me, that version 1.0 (from 12/05/96) have a bug with the file creation time checking. In details: I start a new project, create a program, and compile it via Ctrl-F9 key stroke. Everythig works perfectly. Ok. After that I modify few lines in my code, RHIDE successfuly observes that and indicate [*] in the left-down corner of the editor window. And now, then I press Ctrl-F9 again, I obtain the following message: "test.exe is up to date" !?!?? h$%k?!?.. I've tried to wait few minits, and then to strike back with the magic Ctrl-F9 combination (Funny, I've thinked that RHIDE's time stamp check is minute-occurate), but that does not helps. And if I exit from ide, and then come back, everything works fine, modified files in project are getting recompiled, unmodified are skipped. I tried to look into the source, but hadn't been able to find bug's location, (that's because I'm not such a big guru like Robert Hoehne, Shawn Hargreaves, DJ Delorie, Eli Zaretskii or SET =) (BTW: Hi guys, you are real heroes! You rule PC world)) Please help me in some way to figure out how to fix RHIDE's bug, because I am prety scared with perspective of working with command line. #8() See? It's too much for me, I don't know, if I'll be able to survive... Khe-khe ;) ...the rest of this letter is probably for Robert Hoehne, but everyone is welcomed to read it too ... =) Hi Robert! Catch one more *BIG* thanks from me for your great production! Few words about what I'd happy to see in RHIDE's new releases (I'll be quite happy, and will send the greets to you in all my productions! ) : 1. Bug, described higher to be fixed... Robert, PLEASE! 2. In Bugland's BP 7.0 and BC 3.1 ides there was a feature: if you press Ctrl-Enter at file name in editing window, and this file is present in current directory, then ide open a new edit window with this file, and makes it active... Imagine how *extremly* nice it will be for user's header files =) 3. I have heared before, that RHIDE does not support 100% correctly files with .cpp extension (something about that GDB assumes .cc extension by default, then picks debug info from COFF .o files). You said, that it is not good idea to support non-standard .cpp extension. But Robert! There two types of portability: between dif. host platforms (ie DOS/Linux/HP-UX ect.) and between dif. compilers on the same platorm. Currently I think that secont type is even more important than first, and .cpp is a standard suffix for all M$ DOS hosted compilers (and not only DJGPP rules, I don't think that Watcom C 10.x or Top Speed 32 is (uhm..) suck and Mu$t die (probably only Bugland's is (no, probaly not: guys from were realy know, how to build a nice ide) :) )). So please, if you can, make it so, that (.cc == .cpp) != 0 =) 4. Why not to add ~O~ptions|~S~ave menu entry?! Lots of people are periodicaly yelling "There is my lovely SAVE OPTIONS punct?". I catched the idea, that I must create a project with name RHIDE, and then set default options, but it's not so clear and intuitive for newbies like me. 5. If you can read help file for LIBC.INF, why not to add ~H~elp|~F~iles punct, so people will be able to select and deselect the rest of TexInfo files for on-line browsing (realy comfortable feature!). 6. Ummm. I heared, that even dA bIGGiE bUCKZ lOVER bILL g. decided to use HTML format for help files in his new avanturistic project M$ Windoze 97 (BTW: it is not a coincidense: Herosima 45, Chernobil 86, Windowze 95... Are bILLY gonna bring us another amargedon project this year ? =) ) And second: the FAQ is realy usefull document, it's like a bible for all DJGPP folks, and Eli is like The Great Priest (sory Eli, if something wrong with my sence of humor. I'm ill right now, average temperature of my body is about ~39C). THE IDEA: to add to RHIDE small online html-browser. Because HTML with it's hyperlinks is very good for users and developers. I can start to develop something like this (however I'm so far from a programmers ideal :~( , but I'll try my best, if you want me to do this job - realy). 7. In original TV and BP 7.0 & BC 3.1 then you select menu item (for example if you press Alt-F, you activate ~F~ile), item's text and two spaces from both sides goes to be highlighted with green color. In RHIDE right space isn't highlighter :( I understand that this is absolutly not important for developers, who uses RHIDE (see, I always write this blessed name in high register =) ), but I't makes me filling a little bit uncomfortable, I'm quite sorry to bother you with such a silly request, but if it is possible, please return the rigth space back to the rest of highlighted brotherhood =) ... aren't you bored yet? I realy hope, you not... =) Currently I'm writing yet another graphics editor for dos. It will (hopefully =) ) have *all* features from Deluxe Paint ][ Enhanced 3.0 plus little adds. It will support a wide range of videomodes: mcga256 aka mode 13h, x-modes, SVGA/VBE2.0, tweaked SVGA (like 640*256 & 640*400 - hi, amiga freaks!). Formats: IFF ILBM/PBM,GIF, PCX,TGA,TIFF,BMP,JFIF and all other known formats, for wich I'll find the specs. And finaly it will be freeware (well, may be helloware =) ). I develop my source in such a way, that they are compilable under both DJGPP 2.01 and Watcom C 10.0b. I understand that it is a bit heretical for this maillist, but I prefer Watcom's code generator, plus there is a very good, fast and stable dos extender for Watcom - PMODE/W (currently v1.33). But DJGPP has a realy great ide, and also it still optimizes very well, much better that BC 5.01 =) So I use DJGPP while write and test my code, and Watcom to build up release versions. To check my words take a look at the following: Results of Dhrystone test for DJGPP 2.01 (-O3 option) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dhrystone V1.1: this machine benchmarks at 208333 dhrystones/second. -------------------------------------------------------------------- ... and here is the result of the same test, compiled with Watcom C 10.0b (pmode/w, generic optimization params) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dhrystone V1.1: this machine benchmarks at 263157 dhrystones/second. -------------------------------------------------------------------- ...Watcom faster with abouth 20% Info on file sizes: DJGPP Watcom unpaced EXE size 97506 31620 packed EXE file (DJP v1.05/PMW Lite 1.33) 30660 23295 Both compilers have been tested on my P5 133MHz, 16Mb ram system. BTW: if somebody is interested, I can send an e-mail with the test, just drop a message =) Currently I'm studying C++, so soon I'll be able to browse your sources much easely then now! Will you have something against me, if I'll try in future to make re-port of TV for Watcom, based on your port, and then to create a dos-hosted RHIDE-like ide, mostly based on your sources, for Watcom C? Your credits will be putted in all doc-files and about dialog! Please e-mail me your suggestions. Ok, bye for now, Best wishes ! P.S.: I'd like to give my appologies to all the people, who suffered from my longer-then-average letter and heavely broken English :( At least I didn't proposed to all of you to earn $50000 by sanding $5 to me :) More then that: my English is exelent for average PC demo scener (take a look to some demo related diskmags at ftp.cdrom.com/pub/demos/diskmag =) ) In few months I'll study English at a good courses, and then I'll be much more active in this (vonderfull & friendly & cool & ...) list! P.P.S.(To mailserv maintainer (DJ, if I'm right =) )): Currently djgpp, djgpp-announce, djgpp-digest-daily and djgpp-digest-weekly are available from your site. Why not to make djgpp-error-report, or something like this and say to all the guys to post their copy of autoexec.bat+config.sys+djgpp.env in this special maillist? It will save a lot of space in the digests! Sincerly saying, I'm not very interested in reading all this information, and probably many guys, subscribed to this listserv, will agree with me. P.P.P.S Ok. This letter is ~9.5Kb. Probably I'm not in a good mental shape. It is called graphomania, if I rememer corectly... =) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= AsH aka Adrian Oboroc aka ash AT cinf DOT usm DOT md aka oboroc AT cinf DOT usm DOT md Take a look at ftp://sympad.cri.md/pub/dos/support/lw if you want For PC-sceners: Searching for a brand new coder (experienced in asm/c & math competent) for your group? You aren't scared with long-distance friendship and common demo-making activity? It's your lucky day ! Don't hesistate to drop me some mail... greets, f$#ks, 18-25 year sisters and/or wifes =) or whatever are quite welcome! But *PLEASE*, don't send to me your poetry ! =) Ok?! (Temperature getting higher and higher (39.6C for now), oh poor old termometer! It probably will not survive until the new milennium =) ) Definetely bye & constantly besh wishes ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-[ Team: alcohol sux / H2O rulez ]-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=