Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 13:18:29 JST From: Stephen Turnbull To: ghgreene AT nyx10 DOT cs DOT du DOT edu Cc: djgpp AT sun DOT soe DOT clarkson DOT edu Subject: 4DOS (I like it, shelling to 4DOS, where to get it) I would like to add my vote of confidence in 4DOS. It is drop-in for COMMAND.COM, with tweaking its much more efficient, and it supports lots of features like aliases, user-definable executable extensions, and so on (see the earlier mail). I have been using it for 3 years now, and the only general problem I had was that it munged Japanese- language screen output on builtin commands like LIST and DIR until the most recent version. (Most of you probably don't use Japanese, so ths shouldn't matter....) There is a potential problem as a drop-in replacement for COMMAND.COM. That is that, althought there are no problems with spawn type functions in general, some programs (eg, DEmacs) have hard-coded the shell to be COMMAND.COM. The 4DOS docs note this and advise that you keep COMMAND.COM around in the root directory where such programs can almost always find it. (This is in fact not entirely true for DEmacs: if you know how to set up your _emacs file correctly it can then find 4DOS. But if you're not an Emacs wizard *or* don't read *all* of the DEmacs-specific docs *very* carefully, it might as well be hard-coded since you need to use Emacs LISP to fix it.) I forget how to do it; I use DESQview so I do very little shelling from DEmacs. 4DOS is available as *shareware* (US$69, I think) from all your favorite SIMTEL mirrors (oak.oakland.edu; wuarchive seems to have lost their MS-DOS mirror?). There are also compatible versions for OS/2 and Windows NT. You can order directly from JP Software, POB 1470, E. Arlington, MA 02174 USA (800) 368-8777, (617) 646-3975, fax 617 (646)-0904. Check it out! --Steve