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Jagersma (jwjagersma AT gmail DOT com) [via djgpp-workers AT delorie DOT com]" In-Reply-To: <2ddc5bbe-402e-4db7-921b-f31c6d132dcf@iki.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Reply-To: djgpp-workers AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: djgpp-workers AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On 2023-09-06 16:34, Andris Pavēnis (andris DOT pavenis AT iki DOT fi) [via djgpp-workers AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > On 9/6/23 01:03, J.W. Jagersma (jwjagersma AT gmail DOT com) [via djgpp-workers AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >> On 2023-09-04 18:29, Andris Pavēnis (andris DOT pavenis AT iki DOT fi) [via djgpp-workers AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>> I finally uploaded a month old build of gcc-13.2.0 to http://www.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/beta/v2gnu/ >> Thank you!  Will try building a cross-compiler soon. > > For cross-compiler GIT tag djgpp/gcc-13.2.0 on https://github.com/apavenis/djgpp-gcc should be preferred as there is no need to regenerate GNU automake/autoconf related files for this tag (no changes to theese files). > > Also libstdc++-v3 configure does not do entire check for libc features, when cross-compiling it,   and as result library setup is different from one of native build. I though about doing cross-native build from Linux (--build=x86_64-linux-gnu --host=i586-pc-msdosdjgpp --target=i586-pc-msdosdjpp). I have tried, but it would be not a nice idea to build official packages that way before that libstdc++-v3 problem is solved Didn't know that. I suppose it has to compile and run some native programs for feature detection? Do you happen to know which features that affects? I only ever use a cross-gcc but never noticed anything missing. >> On 2023-09-05 19:17, Andris Pavēnis (andris DOT pavenis AT iki DOT fi) [via djgpp-workers AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>>>> - no testing at all for such new C++20 feature as C++ modules - they may not work at all. I do not >>>>> know. And it is highly unlikely that I'll try to fix it if it does not work >>>> Modules were a huge change, and I don't think GCC fully supports them >>>> yet anyways. >>>> >>> I had to exclude several ways of module support (only one left) as they were unusable for DJGPP >> Does this also apply to cross-compilers or only to native?  I doubt there will >> be many module-only libraries, so it's probably not very important. >> > Checked what I have changed (already for gcc-12) and it is changes is for case when __DJGPP__ is defined, so for building compiler with DJGPP even cross-compiler for DJGPP target > > - https://github.com/apavenis/djgpp-gcc/commit/4a343fe0afb32fd451f5a6f6851334cce0d1e6a8 So the compiler needs to communicate with the build system via sockets? That is more complicated than I expected, and I see how that would be difficult to support for native. Also, I thought gcc 13 would include a Rust compiler, but it seems that's been postponed to gcc 14. Don't need it myself, but I know some people would be interested in having that for djgpp.