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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 08:56:16 +0200
From: Tomas By <tomas AT basun DOT net>
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Subject: Re: Emacs on Omnibook 300
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Hi,

Thanks for additional links.

Am using Jove right now. I did disable drivers as suggested in that FAQ. 
Have not played around with config settings much.

It is DOS 5.0 in ROM.

Symify emacs.exe seems to print only an empty line.

/Tomas



On 2017-06-20 03:49, Rod Pemberton wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 17:51:52 +0200
> Tomas By <tomas AT basun DOT net> wrote:
> 
>> I am trying to run DJGPP Emacs on an Omnibook 300, and get a crash
>> (see [link]).
>> 
>> I note there is a known problem with PCMCIA drivers on Thinkpads, and
>> suspect it may be something related here. (I believe there is BIOS
>> PCMICA support on the Omnibook.)
>> 
>> Am not running HIMEM.SYS or EMM386.SYS. Have 2MB of RAM apparently.
>> 
>> Is this a known problem? Any workarounds? Have I missed something?
>> 
> 
> The easiest solution is probably to just find another editor.  You're
> severely memory constrained.
> 
> Emacs clone links (about 9 claiming to be for DOS)
> http://texteditors.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?EmacsFamily
> 
> One of them is only 4K.  The few links I checked seemed to be good.
> 
> 
> I also found these via Google:
> 
> NotGNU Emacs
> http://www.notgnu.org/
> 
> MicroEmacs
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroEMACS
> http://www.mtxia.com/fancyIndex/Tools/Editors/MicroEMACS/me312dmpi.exe
> 
> Clone of GNU Emacs
> https://github.com/NicolasPetton/emacs
> 
> Jove
> https://opensource.com/article/17/1/jove-lightweight-alternative-vim
> ftp://ftp.cs.toronto.edu/cs/ftp/pub/moraes/jove/
> 
> GNU Zile (has Zemacs, lightweight Emacs clone)
> https://www.gnu.org/software/zile/
> 
> Anyway, there are lots more.  Just enter "DOS Emacs clone" into a
> Google search.  GIYF.  I'm not sure if some of those are actually for
> DOS or are compiled for it, but a few were.
> 
> 
> But, if you REALLY need to get DJGPP's Emacs port working, then ...
> 
> Have you already tried the FAQ answers (section a) for low memory
> machines?
> http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/v2faq/faq3_9.html
> 
> Does symify report anything? I.e., C:\>symify emacs
> 
> You might try some of the other suggestions in sections b, c, d, also.
> I see that the FAQ says to not use HIMEM.SYS with low quantities of 
> RAM.
> If the various FAQ suggestions don't work, have you attempted to use
> HIMEM.SYS?  HIMEM has some options which might free up some memory.
> Also, have you played around with FILES, BUFFERS, and STACKS settings
> in CONFIG.SYS, e.g., reducing them from the default settings since they
> consume memory.
> 
> IIRC, you're going to have a difficult time getting anything to run
> well on DOS without at least 32MB of memory.  What make and version of
> DOS are you using?  Perhaps, someone knows of a lighter weight DOS or a
> better version for your PC.
> 
> 
> Rod Pemberton