X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to djgpp-bounces using -f X-Received: by 10.140.232.88 with SMTP id d85mr27394152qhc.0.1430599967777; Sat, 02 May 2015 13:52:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.96.137 with SMTP id k9mr150023qge.10.1430599967765; Sat, 02 May 2015 13:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 13:52:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse AT google DOT com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=65.13.115.246; posting-account=p5rsXQoAAAB8KPnVlgg9E_vlm2dvVhfO NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.13.115.246 References: <201504280005 DOT t3S05t2U020439 AT delorie DOT com> <201504281718 DOT t3SHIpWZ009266 AT delorie DOT com> <55400870 DOT 3060408 AT gmx DOT de> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NTVDM, was [Re: GCC 5.1.0 problem with ] From: rugxulo AT gmail DOT com Injection-Date: Sat, 02 May 2015 20:52:47 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bytes: 2950 Lines: 41 To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: djgpp AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk Hi, On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 7:50:31 PM UTC-5, Rod Pemberton wrote: > On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 18:23:44 -0400, Juan Manuel Guerrero > wrote: > > > [...] worked flawlessly on NTVDM [...] > > Rugxulo, do you know if NTVDM was patched to work as a > standalone DOS? Uh, of course not. By whom? I don't even think it's possible. At least, there aren't nearly enough skilled and interested people for something like that. And it wouldn't be redistributable anyways. > What about NTVDM as a console window perhaps with Japheth's > DPMI host (HDPMI), DOS extender (HXRT), and GUI/console app > extensions (HXGUI)? I doubt it. I guess nothing's impossible, but this comes pretty close! I've heard of alternate DPMI servers that could run Win 3.x, and I've heard of slimmed Win9x (no GUI?) installs. But anything from NT is probably much harder. > If so, NTVDM could be a solution for some DOS users. It's too > bad Japheth seems to have stopped working on such things. There > are also those guys Xeno86 and Tihiy who worked on the KernelEx > stuff. I don't even have NTVDM anymore. And I don't care to try Win10 previews. Perhaps it works for someone, but it seems like it hasn't been worth anything since after XP. I'd rather use something else (native, DOSEMU, QEMU, VirtualBox). > Did someone archive Japheth's site? It seems to only be > available via the Wayback Archive. No, because freeware != free/libre. We're lucky that WayBack still has a copy. It was a cool hack but nothing to rely too heavily on. If you demand some form of Windows compatibility, dual boot ReactOS.