X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to djgpp-bounces using -f From: Georg Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp Subject: Re: incompatible Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 13:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 53 Message-ID: <8dabbc83-5370-4b8a-b278-82fd10e325e2@s5g2000vbc.googlegroups.com> References: <16cd2 DOT 48279178 DOT 3ce778e4 AT aol DOT com> <83bolizxdh DOT fsf AT gnu DOT org> NNTP-Posting-Host: 46.78.35.225 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: posting.google.com 1337631770 32162 127.0.0.1 (21 May 2012 20:22:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse AT google DOT com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 20:22:50 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse AT google DOT com Injection-Info: s5g2000vbc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=46.78.35.225; posting-account=v5xbdQoAAAAOGc9Ccc-kLZyobvPlN3Qr User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091016 Firefox/3.5.4,gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3977 To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id q4LKj1fx030485 Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com On May 21, 1:22 pm, Georg wrote: > On 21 Mai, 10:57, RayeR wrote: > > > > > Just a note, if you want to use >4GB RAM in windows the 64bits is not > > only one possible way. I guess you heard about PAE. It's supported in > > server editions of win2000 and win2003 and also vista and 7. Also it > > works well in Linux (may require that you will recompile kernel with > > enabled PAE feature). Your windows apps will not be able to use >4GB > > at once but more runnings apps can utilize >4GB from system. If you > > have 32bit version of Vista or 7 you can try this patchhttp://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=49358 > > that will cure the windows kernel to not be limited by nonsense > > restrictions. But you may expect that some driver will not be PAE > > compatible and cause crash at boot and you will have to revert and > > track the problem. But it's a way to go. My way is to stay on XP-SP3 > > until there will be drivers for new hardware. I know it will not last > > forever. Then I probably switch fully to Linux with use of wine, > > dosemu/dosbox, vmware etc. > > > About DOS 32bit bins support under Win64 - On bttr forum it was > > noticed that openwatcom can do this. It can make standard win32 PE > > console apps that are stubbed to run under DOS. So they runs under > > Win64 too because stub is not executed instead PE is loaded. I think > > this is possible way for DJGPP - it could exploit openwatcom's libc > > and support of PE format, we already have HDPMI for running win32 > > PEs... But my knowledges don't go so deep here to write it all myself. > > I rather wrote some thin layer and driver that let me use source > > compatibility and compile separately under dos/linux/win32 (all gcc) > > same source. But I have issue with Win64 driver signing (afaik there's > > boot switch to disable the check but nobody would want mess up his > > system). > > Did you mean this thread?:http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=10847 > > Rugxulo wrote in this thread that he made a djgpp program that works > both with DOS and Windows64 by using RSX/NT. Will this work with just > about any djgpp program? > > Georg I tried Rugxulo's program (7zdecRSX.exe) and yes, it works in DOS and Win7-64bit equally well. In the Windows command window you need the rsxnt.dll file to run and in real mode DOS the rtx.exe file plus cwsdpmi loaded first. I guess if Guenther could compile his program this way it would solve his problem. Georg