X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to djgpp-bounces using -f From: Rugxulo Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp Subject: Re: Which editor do you use? Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 57 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.13.115.246 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1239028625 19672 127.0.0.1 (6 Apr 2009 14:37:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse AT google DOT com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:37:05 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse AT google DOT com Injection-Info: e18g2000yqo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=65.13.115.246; posting-account=p5rsXQoAAAB8KPnVlgg9E_vlm2dvVhfO User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Opera/9.64 (Windows NT 6.0; U; en) Presto/2.1.1,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Hi, On Apr 4, 3:12=A0am, Ster DOT DOT DOT AT aol DOT com wrote: > > that all sounds complicated. What does? > I just wished there were updates to these old editors, Which old editors? You mean Pliable (which I've never heard of) or something else mentioned here? > so I could use them with larger files Aurora (now freeware) claims to support 1 GB file sizes. CWS claims his EDT-like ED can handle 500 MB files with ease. And GNU Emacs supports 256 MB buffers now (on 32-bit platforms, at least). I'm sure other editors (TDE, VIM, FTE) probably work with pretty big files too. http://www-personal.umich.edu/~knassen/aurora.html http://clio.rice.edu/EDstuff/EDDOS157.exe > , Umlaute, easily switch German-US-Keyboard, avoid ascii =A026 > at file-end,... Are we talking pure DOS here? Switching the keyboard is handled by KEYB (Ctrl-Alt-F1 or -F2, IIRC), and FreeDOS has three different variants (XKEYB, KEYB, mKEYB) although KEYB is the best (with XKEYB being deprecated and mKEYB only for minimal support). The umlaut / diaresis is usually dependent upon your codepage (850 found in FD's EGA.CPX although others support it to) and probably generated by AltGr + whatever (I don't grok German). http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.0/p= kgs/keybx.zip http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.0/p= kgs/keybs.zip BTW, not all editors worry about Ctrl-Z, and at least TDE has a config option to not insert it automatically, so other editors may have similar. P.S. Depending upon who you want to send files to, you may prefer true ISO-8859-1 (cp819) or UTF-8 for German instead of cp850. You'll have to get Kosta Kostis' ISOLATIN.CPI for cp819. But at least Mined will let you edit ISO-8859-1 or UTF-8 German text files in pure DOS even if your terminal only supports ISO-8859-1. (Actually, Blocek is graphical and requires a mouse, but it supports UTF-8 with its own fonts.) Of course, GNU Emacs w/ LEIM can do all of that too (without needing special fonts or graphics). It just depends on what you prefer. Does any of this help? http://www.kostis.net/freeware/isocp101.zip http://www.towo.net/mined/ http://www.laaca-mirror.ic.cz/