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From: Rugxulo <rugxulo AT gmail DOT com>
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Subject: Re: GNU Emacs 22.3 and Vista
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:43:07 -0700 (PDT)
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Hi,

On Apr 1, 2:19=A0pm, Eli Zaretskii <e DOT  DOT  DOT  AT gnu DOT org> wrote:
> > From: Rugxulo <rugx DOT  DOT  DOT  AT gmail DOT com>
> > Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:32:37 -0700 (PDT)
>
> > > =A0ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.0.92.tar.gz
>
> > That saves a lot of time, so thanks to them. (Now if only they pre-
> > compiled all those .elc files for me.) =A0 =A0;-)
>
> A pretest is just like a release, which means all the *.el files are
> already compiled there into *.elc files.

So I see (hence the 43 MB download). I would think everybody has Bzip2
by now, though. Even AdvanceDef would shave 3 MB off it.    :-)

> > > I have just built it on my XP SP2 machine, and it builds out of the
> > > box and seems to run fine.
>
> > The big improvement for 23.0 is internal UTF-8, right?
>
> Unicode, not UTF-8. =A0UTF-8 is just one encoding of Unicode text; Emacs
> supports much more than just UTF-8. =A0But the internal representation
> of characters is based on Unicode in Emacs 23.

So which is it, UTF-16?

> > P.S. Eli, next time you e-mail RMS, tell him "thanks" from me (and Jim
> > Hall) for not killing DOS support.
>
> You can do this yourself, write to emacs-de DOT  DOT  DOT  AT gnu DOT org. =A0But you
> should know that Richard is no longer the head maintainer of Emacs,
> there are two guys (Stefan Monnier and Chong Yidong) who took over
> Emacs maintenance about a year ago.

Yes, I heard about that, and it's no surprise. He probably has his
hands full and/or would rather work on other things.

P.S. It still claims an error when I try building with SYSTEM_MALLOC:

 msdos.o w16select.o xmenu.o    termcap.o tparam.o lastfile.o
getloadavg.o
                    -lg             -lm
dosfns.o:dosfns.c:(.text+0x663): undefined reference to
`_ret_lim_data'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make.exe[1]: *** [temacs.exe] Error 1
make.exe[1]: Leaving directory `c:/Armslurp/emacs-23.0.92/src'
make.exe: *** [src] Error 2

Now this time you have to admit that it isn't my imagination.    :-)