X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to djgpp-bounces using -f NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:19:32 -0600 From: "Alexei A. Frounze" Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp References: <4f4 DOT 5f7fe79 DOT 32b650fa AT aol DOT com> Subject: Re: Can DJGPP work with Windows XP dos box? Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 00:18:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_032E_01C72170.E123C4E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Message-ID: Lines: 104 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.18.54.185 X-Trace: sv3-gCWP2hlvRm9ChayrOYVEfzofg6ET2EZHzbNSILtiN4Buq2JvMVPSy2VmLv80OkjICCjRv/I4I72OuuE!qJLB8eeCeUi4795P3i0YW9Ti0P791Fvm/SCoWu19B3ZtKGfqt5nuUWSs8zKQgIgh60hOE2+qICJp!l2RKSO82RQI= X-Complaints-To: abuse AT comcast DOT net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca AT comcast DOT net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_032E_01C72170.E123C4E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable NTVDM is a special virtual environment/machine to make old DOS programs = run under Windows. Unfortunately, it's broken in several ways starting = with Windows 2000. It gets worse in Vista, where must-have graphics = modes for those old DOS programs are optional to implement. Finally, = none of 16-bit DOS and 32-bit Dos Protected Mode Interface applications = won't work under any 64-bit Windows as-is. You will have to install some = virtualization software like VMWare, Virtual Server/PC, Bochs, QEMU, = etc, create a virtual PC with a virtual HDD in it, install DOS in it and = run all your DOS apps in there. The only more-or-less guaranteed way. = Sigh. Alex wrote in message = news:4f4 DOT 5f7fe79 DOT 32b650fa AT aol DOT com... what's NTVDM ? I always use it in a DOS box. I can't use makefile and have problems with keyboard and graphics = commands. I had used it before under plain DOS and some of my old programs don't = work in a DOS-box under XP. So sometimes I have to boot DOS from disk and use DJGPP from there. So, it works from DOS and from a DOS-box, but AFAIR there had been = some problems, when I first installed it. ------=_NextPart_000_032E_01C72170.E123C4E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
NTVDM is a special virtual environment/machine to make old DOS = programs run=20 under Windows. Unfortunately, it's broken in several ways starting with = Windows=20 2000. It gets worse in Vista, where must-have graphics modes for those = old DOS=20 programs are optional to implement. Finally, none of 16-bit DOS and = 32-bit Dos=20 Protected Mode Interface applications won't work under any 64-bit = Windows as-is.=20 You will have to install some virtualization software like VMWare, = Virtual=20 Server/PC, Bochs, QEMU, etc, create a virtual PC with a virtual HDD in = it,=20 install DOS in it and run all your DOS apps in there. The only = more-or-less=20 guaranteed way. Sigh.
 
Alex
<Sterten AT aol DOT com> = wrote in=20 message news:4f4 DOT 5f7fe79 DOT 32b650fa AT aol.= com...
what's NTVDM ?
 
I always use it in a DOS box.
 
I can't use makefile and have problems with keyboard and graphics = commands.
 
I had used it before under plain DOS and some of my old programs = don't=20 work
in a DOS-box under XP.
So sometimes I have to boot DOS from disk and use DJGPP from = there.
 
So, it works from DOS and from a DOS-box, but AFAIR there had = been some=20 problems,
when I first installed = it.
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