From: "A. Sinan Unur" <asu1 AT c-o-r-n-e-l-l DOT edu>
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Subject: Re: HELP Please: C++ Includes
Date: 20 Jul 2003 03:00:46 GMT
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To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com
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RadSurfer <RadSurfer AT yahoo DOT com> wrote in 
news:95oihvsp8f0e7uustpqmtf4pf58nu995kj AT 4ax DOT com:

> Downloaded the very latest/greatest from Delorie FTP....  this month.
> 
> Okay so I did my very best to install everything I thought I'd need.

Well ...

> Now I have to contend with the rather bizarre place things were put...

Why do you even care about the directory structure?

> case in point:
> 
> \djgpp\land\cxx\.....       why are the C++ headers HERE?

It is \djgpp\lang\cxx. They are there, because they are headers for the 
language called C++.

> (obviously a great deal more going on here than any newbie is
>  prepared for; and even an intermediate user might be overwhelmed)

Never cared.

> why can't they be in and under the  \djgpp\include\   folder ????
> 
> many include files in \cxx\ don't even have ".h" extensions (and
> there's nothing explaining what is going on with these) !!

They are not supposed to.
 
> \cxx\3.32\backward\*.* 
>   "look like" the "correct" files....ARE THEY?  Could these simply
>  be copied into the established \djgpp\include\   folder ???

No they are not. They are 'backward' compatibility files for pre-standard 
C++ source.

> Is the C++ compiler hard-coded to recognize specific paths; 
> (configuration of djgpp.env is important)
> or is there plenty of room to customize to more centralized
> organization (everything contained in \include\) ?

It is none of the compiler's end-user's business where the compiler setup 
places headers.
 
> I feel, that even after all this time, the DJGPP readme's are still
> extremely vague about how to go about setting C++ in DJGPP!
> And using Delorie's website is OUT of the question...(see below).

They are not vague if you read them.
 
> Also, there are some finer points regarding C++ and the
> djgpp.env thingy.... elaboration on the PROPER setup for this
> should also be discussed please.

Everything works out of the box (so to speak).
 
> If someone has a proper, step by step, setup procedure for the
> C++ side of DJGPP (gcc/gpp), PLEASE post it. Thanks...
> ('Proper' means that .ZIP files are listed explicitly; and paths to
> and from material are explicitly written out...)
> 
> ANOTHER MATTER:
> I was extremely shocked and horrified by seeing that
> http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/
> now has popups and those foolish flashing gif animations,
> all of which are totally unnecessary and completely unacceptable!
> Next thing they'll have flash garbage on there and find themselves
> boycotted for life...
> There is NO EXCUSE for this! The internet is already trashy enough;
> we simply do not expect to see this kind of outrageous nonsense to
> be everywhere we go!
> Fight it now people --> it is only to get worse!

I have to admit, I never contributed to DJ's effort financially. I have 
no problem if he makes a few dollars displaying some ads. After all, who 
do you think pays for all that bandwidth you used downloading the 
distribution?

Sinan.

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