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Damian Yerrick wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 05:44:32 +0200, "Netalex"
> <netalex AT pop DOT tiscalinet DOT it> wrote:
>
> >
> >Damian Yerrick <Bullcr_pd_yerrick AT hotmail DOT comRemoveBullcr_p> wrote in [snip]
> >> Dev Tools Family:
> >>   Visual J++: Sun JDK; Borland JBuilder
> >>   Visual C++: Emacs + GTK/Glade + GCC; RHIDE + Allegro + GCC...[snip]
> >
> >RHIDE+allegro IMHO is great, but is'nt comparable to a real graphical ide or
> >better case as c++builder &c are in win, as these are unified environement.
> >But why don't make it? We can re-write rhide tvision interface to became an
> >allegro-gui interface and think on a modular & flexible structure like gimp,
> >to integrating in the IDE actual allegro utilities and futures programs as
> >plug-in, and code as object, could be whit drag&drop (there's CORBA)
> >Sure, i'm a beginner c programmer, anyway i can't also be able to read and
> >understand the Salvador & Robert's code (Any commented source version?), but
> >i think it could be possible, and i could be a real help for beginner
> >programmeres and programmers that came from W9x to Linux and a free DOS.
> >My model tinking on this is the spanish "game's editor" DIV, that i dislike
> >as serious language (that is'nt c or whatever only a sort of script based on
> >watcom) but not at all as a learning tool and as a good example of totally
> >integrated ide/case.
> >Excuse my funny (i think) english.
> >What do you think about? I'm mad?
> >[snip]
>
> Mad?  Hardly.  Porting Turbo Vision to Allegro would be a great idea.
> Any takers?

The problem with porting turbovision anywhere other than to a text-mode screen is
that it has no smarts...  if a window needs to be moved in the heirarchy or
physically resized or moved on the screen it draws all the lower windows one by
one in reverse order (in their entirety) and then draws the moved window... this
is fine in text mode where the draws don't take any time but in a graphics mode
it would be a major slowing factor when you have several windows up.

There used to be some C++ based GUI given away for free by a company selling DOS
graphics libraries as a demo of functionality... it would probably have been a
better match than turbovision but good luck finding it now!

David

David

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