Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 06:16:21 +0600 (LKT) From: Kalum Somaratna aka Grendel X-Sender: root AT darkstar DOT grendel DOT net To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: Win 2000 & Djgpp In-Reply-To: <88e3p7$igj$1@spruce.ukc.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: dj-admin AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: djgpp AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Chris Jones wrote: > > On my Pentium-233 it does take a long time to start up, but once running, it > can multitask much more smoothly than Win9x - I can play an mp3 and work at Not mutiltasking it is more likely task switching. For ex just see how slow and chunky the multitasking becomes say when you run GCC on a large build and then try to open up menu's, run apps etc. > the same time under Win2000, whereas under Win95 the music would start > skipping if I did anything else. This maybe a problem that is unrelated to the OS's multitasking as win95 takes far less CPU resources than 2000. And playing a MP3 is not that CPU intensive as far as a pentium is concerned. I suggest that you try incresing the buffer length of audio data to reduce this skipping. It could also be due to bugy win95 drivers (more likely). > > I can't comment about linux - I've never used it and I really don't want to > learn another set of commands. If anyone writes a DOS emulator for Linux, I > might give it a go :-) There is a superb dos emulator called DOSEmu for linux. Also there is WINE (WINE is not a emulator) which enables you to run windoze programs on linux. Reportedly it is even possible to run that bloated mostrosity Office97 under linux thanks to WINE. > > > Actually Chris this is quite wrong, AFAIK due to windoze's intrinsically > > faulty design one badly behaved app can indeed bring the whole system > > crashing to the ground. > > This has never happened to me. The only time I've seen Win2k totally crash > is if a full-screen DOS-app causes a fault in ntvdm - in which case, the > whole system does die. Well A _good_ 32 bit OS should be able to handle and terminate any badly behaving program gracefully. And gracefully doesn't mean crashing ;-). Thats what protected mode is all about, One app shoudn't be able to mess with another apps or even the OS's memory and resources etc. If a dos app can cause a fault in ntvdm and bring the whole system down that shows that windoze (because of it's bad design) can't handle a badly behaved app very nicely. > > > there was this user who was complainig that RHIDE with windoze > > gave him a back screen and then the system locked up. > > This is the example I was talking about above; however, if you run RHIDE > windowed then all that happens is it kills the process when it crashes. sloowwwwwww. Please see how slow vga games like doom are windowed. BTW It isn't possible to run VESA based dos games windowed. Also have you noticed that when you are running a vesa game full screen and you accidently press that #@$*! M$ startmenu key , you cant re switch to your game as windoze says that it can't redraw the display etc.. very nice I suppose ;-) > > > I think Chris you should not belive all the hype that microshaft is > > delivering. > > I'm not believing any hype - I've used Win2000 myself for 2 months now, and > am speaking from experience. Please try running products from different companies (not just microshaft) and see whether your system survives it). I'm sure you'l run into at least one of the 64000 bugs that m$ has acknowledged. > > > > IMO, Win2000 is good value for money. > > > > I don't belive i'm reading this ;-) > > Look, it's only a figure of speech - I mean, it's a good OS. Good OS??? Maybe a tolerable (even this is questionable) OS, but certainly not a good OS. If you enjoy your system crashing and you have the patience to wait a long time till it restarts then it's quite OK to have windoze ;-) BTW when one user complained to M$ about how often windoze crashes he was told that "We acknowledge that problem and our solution to that is, we are working on reducing the reboot time for windoze"!!!! Typical of M$ won't you agree... > > > IMHO Windoze is just good to run the occasional game you have, It is > > _not_ good for any serious work. > > I admit that it's not good for servers or time-critical applications. Not just time critical but it is not good for running _any_ software that you need to depend upon. > But for the average home user, who just wants to do some word > processing and play a few games, Windows is the best out there. Not anymore, see how many users are using Linux. Some PC companies actually sell PC's with Linux as the only OS preinstalled. Anyway playing a few games and running word processing can be done in DOS also.. Enjoy, Grendel Hi, I'm a signature virus. plz set me as your signature and help me spread :)