Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 05:36:08 +0600 (LKT) From: Kalum Somaratna aka Grendel X-Sender: root AT darkstar DOT grendel DOT net To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" in DOS mode In-Reply-To: <38A59D3C.DCC7F1D7@home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: dj-admin AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: djgpp AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Robin Johnson wrote: > > Damian Yerrick wrote: > > > For some reason, I don't. io.sys automatically loads HIMEM. If > > bandwidth and copyright law permitted, I would beam you an image of my > > hard drive, but... > > This was a new 'feature' in windows98, even the standard distros do > it. But you may find it useful to also load some drivers in CONFIG.SYS > for your system, and maybe also a DPMI server. Also the EMM386 or other expanded memory managers. Expanded memory is still required especially by dos games. Actually this new "feature" of sindows98 autoloading himem.sys ifshelp.sys etc proved to be another *&#@ing annoyance when I had to free up about 600K of free base memory to run a old dos game. I was unable to because although my config.sys didn't have any reference, sin98 was "autoloading" ifshelp, dblbuffer.sys (which is not required, I don't know what made M$ think dblbuffer is needed on my UDMA/IDE drive) etc.. I think it is pretty pathetic that windows needs himem.sys in order to run. Why should a 32bit OS with so called "preemptive multitasking" need a dos16bit memory manager???? They even have the nerve to say that "himem.sys forms the cornerstone of windows memory management". So a bug in himem.sys and you probably can kiss all your 32bit programs goodbye ;-) Even CWSDPMI doesn't need himem.sys to run 32bit apps. It can use the 386's native mode. >If you need some DOS cdrom drivers, I have been collecting > quite a lot over the years, so just tell me what type of cdrom you > have, and I can send you the right DOS driver if you don't have it. > Actually since most current CD-ROM's are IDE compatible (thank heavens!), a generic driver should suffice in most cases. Like the generic driver (OAK cdrom driver IIRC)that microsnoft windows98 setup loads when you boot from the cd-rom. HTH, Kalum Hi, I'm a signature virus. plz set me as your signature and help me spread :)