From: khan AT xraylith DOT wisc DOT edu (Mumit Khan) Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp Subject: Re: cout + latest version? Date: 15 Nov 1999 17:18:29 GMT Organization: Center for X-ray Lithography, UW-Madison Lines: 61 Message-ID: <80pf95$16bs$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <3823718F DOT 51A3 AT tin DOT it> <806t6a$1u3i AT enews4 DOT newsguy DOT com> <809lmf$o2o$1 AT news DOT doit DOT wisc DOT edu> <38301C64 DOT B476CAC0 AT nortelnetworks DOT com> NNTP-Posting-Host: modi.xraylith.wisc.edu To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com In article <38301C64 DOT B476CAC0 AT nortelnetworks DOT com>, Ian Chapman wrote: >Mumit, > I'm not at all able to see what the issue is. cout works like any text >book will tell you. I did not know that you could get away with out >the *.h in the include bit. Wonder why? and what digs with this std? >I'm not learning from you, I'm sure that you can be more enlightening >rather than coming through as a smartie. [ Ian, if you've also posted a note as well as emailing it, please do mention that in the email. Save me some typing. ] The issue is quite simple: All of iostreams live in the std namespace, and unless you specifically (1) qualify explicitly, or (2) import specific symbols or all the symbols from the std namespace, you're not allowed to use cout, cerr, etc. Here's an example of (1): #include int main () { std::cout << "Hello world" << std::endl; } Here's an example of (2.a): #include using std::cout; using std::endl; int main () { cout << "Hello world" << endl; } Here's an example of (2.b): #include using namespace std; int main () { cout << "Hello world" << endl; } Some vendors have chosen to use headers with .h suffix as a backward compatibility header; eg., if you include , it will implicitly do a `using namespace std;' for you, or put all the names in the global namespace. However, this is by no means standard, but it just a convention used by some of the vendors. Newer books such as Stroustrup 3rd and a few others cover this in some detail. Regards, Mumit