From: david DOT stegbauer AT cz DOT opel DOT com X-Lotus-FromDomain: GMCZECHIA AT EDSHUBEUROPE Sender: david DOT stegbauer AT cz DOT opel DOT com To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:34:04 +0000 Subject: Re: FreeDOS (was: Re: DJGPP: the future is... ?) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Thomas J. Hruska wrote > All this bloat has angered many, many programmers that they started > ReactOS, FreeDOS, ... Or GEM. If DJGPP users and developers look for GLP'd GUI desktop environment (with GDOS under it) they should look at http://www.devili.iki.fi/cpm/gemworld.html Well, GEM is not able to run DJGPP stuff, but when discussion is about future, it may be good as GUI base. I didn't try it nor looked at source but it sounds interesting. Some info about GEM follows: GEM is a GUI desktop environment produced by Digital Research about the time that MicroSoft did the first version of Windoze. MS won, unfortunately. :-( GEM SOURCE Caldera has just released the source for GEM, and related products, to the public domain, under the GPL; the GNU Public Lisence. The sources will be available here first. :=) Since it is now GPL'd, you can do pretty much whatever you want to with it as long as you honor the GPL lisence included with the files. The first offering will be the source for GEM itself. This source is RAW. That means that it doesn't necessarily compile into a running program. It will take the efforts of some talented programmers to clean it up, and turn it into a solid, viable, operating system. I believe that there are several people out there who are more than capable of doing this. HACKERS ALERT Gene Buckle (geneb AT deltasoft DOT com) is talking about bringing the GEM/3 desktop to Linux. From Linux, GEM could be moved (in a much improved form) to FreeDOS and other (Palm Pilot!) environments. If you think this is a neat idea, please contact him at geneb AT deltasoft DOT com. If there is enough interest in this he will get a website and mailing list going to support the project(s)."