From: alainm AT carnaval DOT risq DOT qc DOT ca (Alain Magloire)
Subject: Re: FreeDOS (was: Re: DJGPP: the future is... ?)
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Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 01:30:37 GMT
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Jeff Williams (jeffw AT darwin DOT sfbr DOT org) wrote:
: [Alain Magloire ranted]

...
: Well, as one of those who contributed to this thread about DJGPP and
: FreeDOS, I suggest reviewing what DJ himself wrote:
...
: It seems that much of the incentive behind the development of DJGPP was
: due directly to the inadequacies of DOS that you are ranting about.
: Wouldn't changing that underlying DOS `engine' in the ways you suggest
: just amout to reinventing DJGPP in the image of Linux?  Why not just
: move to Linux, then, and abandon DOS and DJGPP?

Sigh, you're missing my point. DJ invited for a reflexion on the
`avenir', future, leap forward, what other cools thing to do,
to bodly go where DOS ... I'm saying that FreeDOS is a 16 bit OS
when the rest of the world is moving to 64 bits, SMP, ...

: just amout to reinventing DJGPP in the image of Linux?  Why not just
: move to Linux, then, and abandon DOS and DJGPP?

Sure and {Free,Open,Net}BSD or the Hurd or ....
But that's not the point is it.

: There are many of us who just want to do away completely with M$
: software.  DJGPP can take you all the way there *except* for the kernel,
: and can do it with fewer system resources than can a full-blown Linux
: distribution, and it lets you keep your DOS machine.  Very neat.

Indeed.

: Yes, there is lots of room for improvement in DOS.  These improvements
: could be made to enhance the cooperation of DOS and DJGPP and to
: provide some of the capabilities you mention, but DJGPP won't be of
: much use without DOS of some kind.  It doesn't *have* to be FreeDOS,
: but the advantage of the FreeDOS project is that their kernel is
: maturing rapidly, and it might deserve consideration as a starting
: point for building a better DOS that will still support DJGPP.

That's what I'm trying to get out with one more comment
if DOS/DJGPP wants to survive as a usefull system it must
keep up with its time.  See my rant.

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au revoir, alain
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