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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 18:26:30 +0000
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>In message <Pine DOT SUN DOT 3 DOT 91 DOT 990225111426 DOT 2772J-100000 AT is>, Eli Zaretskii: 
>>On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, Dave Bird wrote:
>>>
>
>  Hi. First of all, various messages have crossed in time and
>  caused a lot of confusion.  I'm going to sit down and do what
>  I can until Monday, rather than just keep endlessly debating
>  with the DJ team by email which is not getting either side much
>  forrarder.  I assume everyone will get this reply from the list.
>
>>>  At the moment there is a program prefix at START: which 
>>>  [description of what my current assembler start-up does]
>>
>>DJGPP's startup code and low-level library functions already do all
>>that for you, 
>
>  Agreed, so what I do is define a replacement prefix as a 
>  DJ-GPP program which then calls ASM_MAIN.
>
>>>  Would RHIDE's GDB type debugger be happy with this? it would
>>>  just follow the source across into filename.S which
>>>  contained ASM_MAIN ??
>>
>>I think somebody said that NASM cannot yet generate debug info, so you
>>might need to use Gas (and hence the AT&T syntax) to get full debug
>>support in assembly code.
>
>  OK, checked that.  Certainly NASM, inline Gas assembler, and
>  I assume (is this true?) also external Gas programs don't
>  generate debug line-number info, so I would have to do it
>  "by hand" or by writing a program.
>
>In message <Pine DOT SUN DOT 3 DOT 91 DOT 990225111519 DOT 2772K-100000 AT is>, Eli Zaretskii
><eliz AT is DOT elta DOT co DOT il> writes
>>On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, Dave Bird wrote:
>>
>>> OK: a prefix written in C could do all these things then call ASM_MAIN,
>>> which is (unavoidably) written in Intel assembler by someone else.
>>
>>There are converters from Intel to AT&T style.  Check out section 17.2
>>of the DJGPP FAQ list for several solutions.
>>
>>> Looks like that line-number info for inline assem will have to be
>>> generated "by hand", or by writing a program myself to do it.
>>
>>That's only when the assembly code is inlined in a C source.  Pure
>>assembly modules are free from this problem, I think.
>
> OK, I'll try an external Gas program.
>
>In message<m10G4bV-000S6GC AT inti DOT gov DOT ar>, Salvador Eduardo Tropea writes:
>>Dave wrote:
>>> >RHIDE 1.4.7 can debug assembler with the dissasembler window. If you want to 
>>> >step in the .S file you'll need to add debug information to this file by 
>>> >hand.
>>> 
>>> Yuck, that is truly awful --how do I add the debug information by hand??
>>> (either how to do it,or what webpages/infos I must read to find out how)
>>
>>Look in the info documents for gas, as and gcc (you can read it from RHIDE 
>>and they will look like Borland helps).
>>Additionally you can try using the -S switch to see the assembler output of 
>>the compiler and learn how the debug information is added.
>
> I'll try looking at the compiler output for the nature of debug info.
>
>>> Is there any way to do it which fits more easily and sensibly with
>>> the DJGPP way of doing things......  would it have debug info .S if it
>>> were an AS file in backwards-format assembler?  
>>
>>There is not automatic way. Inline assembler is pasted in the assembler 
>>output "AS-IS", nothing is added or removed. And without debug information 
>>you can't step in the sources, only in the disassembler window.
>
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>In message <Pine DOT SUN DOT 3 DOT 91 DOT 990225111519 DOT 2772K-100000 AT is>, Eli Zaretskii
><eliz AT is DOT elta DOT co DOT il> writes
>>> Can you give me a current URL for this dead link too, please,
>>> as I guess I'll be needing it soon.
>>
>>The URL is unchanged, it's just that the server seems to retire the
>>document from time to time. 
>>
>>> P.S. is this URL 
>>> OK for "ed"? 
>>No,  Use this:
>>    ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/gnu/djgpp/v2gnu/ed-02b.zip
>
> Thanks, I will.  Brennan's page sure looks like a dead parrot---->
>
>On c.o.m.d, In article, <36D46BA6 DOT 6AB4 AT erols DOT com>, John S. Fine writes:
>>Paradox wrote:
>>> his page fell though. Does some one else know the location of another
>>> tutorial site or the location of Brennan's new page?
>>
>>A copy (not new) of Brennan's tutorial:
>>http://www.rt.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de/~georg/djgpp/djgpp_asm.html
>
> I got it from there. Perhaps there could (eventually) be 
> an alternate link in the FAQ,  if the first is erratic?
>
>In message <19990225063207 DOT AAA7776 AT jackal DOT intekom DOT com DOT intekom DOT co DOT za>,
>StefanViljoen,6599 <rylan AT intekom DOT co DOT za> writes
>>----------
>>Dave,
>>
>>Please go and visit my WWW page http://home.intekom.com/rylan/ and go to
>>the programming section. I have done EXACTLY what you seem to want to do,
>>i. e. convert assembly programs (mainly graphics demos) from TASM to NASM
>>in protected mode under DJGPP 
>
> This sounds like it might be my salvation; I will study up 
> on what Stefan has done.
>

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