Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 23:11:29 +0800 (GMT)
From: Orlando Andico <orly AT dilnet DOT upd DOT edu DOT ph>
Reply-To: Orlando Andico <orly AT dilnet DOT upd DOT edu DOT ph>
To: Weiqi Gao <weiqigao AT a DOT crl DOT com>
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Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: SET's Editor v0.4.1 released
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On Sat, 18 Oct 1997, Weiqi Gao wrote:

..
> An editors fate is not determined by its features, but rather where it's
> author went after graduating college!
> 
> Take a look at the author/editor relationship chart below:
> 	EMACS - Richard Stallman, James Gosling
> 	vi    - Bill Joy
> 
> Do you know where your editor's author(s) are?  [Let's try to keep the
> publisher out of this.]

The fact that Richard Stallman is with the FSF/GNU Project while both Bill
Joy and James Gosling are with Sun (Joy as a co-founder, Gosling as the
main architect of Java) doesn't mean anything. Here's an excerpt from one
of RMS' speeches (30 October 1986 at at KTH, Stockholm) where he talks a
bit about Gosling:

> In the summer of that year, about two years ago now, a friend of mine
> told me that because of his work in early development of Gosling Emacs,
> he had permission from Gosling in a message he had been sent to
> distribute his version of that.
>
> Gosling originally had set up his Emacs and distributed it free and
> gotten many people to help develop it, under the expectation based on
> Gosling's own words in his own manual that he was going to follow the
> same spirit that I started with the original Emacs.
>
> Then he stabbed everyone in the back by putting copyrights on it,
> making people promise not to redistribute it and then selling it to a
> software-house. My later dealings with him personally showed that he was
> every bit as cowardly and despicable as you would expect from that
> history.

If I'm not mistaken, Gosling's screwing of the free software industry was
one of Stallman's motivations for founding the FSF, without which we
wouldn't _have_ DJGPP.
 
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