From: David Jenkins <me AT jenkinsdavid DOT demon DOT co DOT uk>
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Subject: Re: that's no fun anymore (was HELP!!)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 00:55:49 +0100
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In article <01bcd30b$51beefe0$LocalHost AT default>, Thomas Jansen
<jansen AT cs DOT bonn DOT edu> writes
>>    Also, Allegro is installed and I am looking forward to creating a
>small
>>    demo with the two...  the demos I've seen of DJGPP&Allegro are
>>    excellent. On my P133MHz, I ran a small parallax-starfield demo
>>    with an incredible 10,000 stars updating at the max frame-rate of
>>    60fps!!!  WOW... this is going to be fun!!!!
>
>fun? sorry if this seems to be off-topic, but where is fun in calling some
>library-routines of allegro and watch the "amazing stuff"? the only one
>that should be credited for his work is shawn and not the coder that just
>pressed the correct 3 buttons...

Remember when you first started??
The first "Good God look what I've done. This is brilliant."

Shawn + Co have just given us the tools to do "amazing stuff" with,
using your analogy Picasso shouldn't have been credited in the way that
he was, the people who made his canvas, paints and brushes should be the
real heros.
I reckon Allegro has saved me LOTS of work, when I first installed DJGPP
I did the usual stuff with printf(), then got bored, I tried looking at
ways to get at the display but at the time it was way beyond my level.
Then I found Allegro, the rest is history. :)
Leave the guy alone, let him explore the world of C, when he's more
confident he'll be able to use his own putpixel etc routines, if he
wants to.

BTW Do you use printf(), malloc(), for(;;), if(), struct{}  etc,etc??
Just the same thing as using a library as far as I'm concerned.

>
>i don't have anything against libraries, but i don't think if it's that
>much fun watching other peoples work and thinking it was done by myself.
>this is just more or less a lie...

BTW It sounds like your saying Shawn and friends are wasting their time.

>
>btw.: 10.000 stars in 60fps are not THAT amazing =)
>
It is when you've just moved from Basic.

BTW that sounds a lot like my Starfield, it only uses 10,000 stars
because any more just look like sheets of paper with holes in them
moving across the screen. 

>>       Take  care,
>>       GARFIELD
>
>greets, thomas...
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