From: ego AT juno DOT com
To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com
Subject: Re: Ideas for DJGPP.
Message-ID: <19961204.165036.8950.0.ego@juno.com>
References: <Pine DOT SUN DOT 3 DOT 91 DOT 961201091558 DOT 12293J-100000 AT is>
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 19:53:15 EST


On Sun, 1 Dec 1996 09:16:46 +0200 (IST) Eli Zaretskii
<eliz AT is DOT elta DOT co DOT il> writes:
>
>On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Tudor wrote:
>
>> Don't get me wrong,djgpp is by far better and more complex than 
>turbo
>> C++,but for a newcomer,djgpp's complexity can really be confusing.
>
>Can you please tell in detail what are the issues that make DJGPP 
>confusing for a newcomer?  Thanks.
>

Here are somethings that would confuse newcomers. Some of them confused
me, and some of them didnt, but here they are.


* All of the unix stuff. (setdjgpp, fileutils, the directory system,
info)

* How it is packaged. When i first got DJGPP, i didnt know which files to
get. Even after i read  
   readme.txt i still didnt know what i needed. Turbo C came with it's
IDE, and docs and    examples. I know that a lot of packages in DJGPP are
not supposed to go togehter, but 
  if there was some way... 

* Little documentation. Sure the info files are conprehensive, but they
read like a science  
   textbook. DJGPP needs a good manual, in a txt or html form. It also
needs a sort of tutorial 
   manual, that would explain DJGPP from the beggining to end. If someone
could write a tutorial    for beggining C programmers that is built
around DJGPP, then DJGPP would not be looked 
   a compiler that is too complicated to get started out in.

Theses are just some of the things that i have noticed. Im not saying
that these things are bad, after a while I got everything, and I
perfectly happy with DJGPP. Please do not reply with explanations on why
things are the way they are, I understand perfectly. 
   Maybe if someone put together a package that is just for newbies. it
could contain Everything needed to compile Ansi C programs, RHIDE, a
couple of examples, and maybe some docs. Then distrubute it around upload
it to a site. We then in turn could upload it to BBS's around the country
and spread it around. If we make it as easy as it can be to get started,
newbies will fall in love with DJGPP and get the whole thing. 

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