Xref: news2.mv.net comp.os.msdos.djgpp:6056 From: "A. Sinan Unur" Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp Subject: Re: DJGPP HELP!!!!! Date: 16 Jul 1996 16:49:59 GMT Organization: Cornell University Lines: 42 Sender: asu1 AT cornell DOT edu (Verified) Message-ID: <4sgh7n$577@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 128 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Eli Zaretskii wrote: >On 16 Jul 1996, Colin MacDonald wrote: >> and if you >> spend five minutes going through the documentation, you'll discover >> that DJGPP is definitely NOT a good package if you are learning C. I >> have been using UNIX C for about five years now, and I still have >> trouble with DJGPP. >> Try something like Turbo C/C++ or Visual C, > >With all due respect, I disagree. I don't see any reason why DJGPP >couldn't be a tool to learn programming at least as good as Turbo C. If >you see any trouble with the docs or other tools, or the necessary setup, >that would prevent people from using DJGPP as such a tool, please tell. >Personally, I don't know about anything in Turbo/Visual C that makes them >a better learning tool. Are they better documented? Are they better >supported? Do you get your questions answered faster and better by their >support staff? i usually don't post stuff just to say i agree but i thnk this time i am justified. i began learning C around March of this year. C is the first compiled language that i have programmed in. before that i had programmed in z-80 assembly, basic and something called euphoria (which is really fun, search for it on the web and try it.) djgpp is the first ever C compiler i used have used and i did not thing there was anything lacking in terms of speed or documentation. i do not have a speed deamon either: a 486 dx4-75 with 8 mb ram. an ide is always nice when you are dealing with more than just a few source files but in the learning stages, you really don't need an ide or make, just a text editor is fine. i also find it important to have full 32-bit environment w/o stupid restrictions. i prefer dealing with dpmi to tring to fit stuff into 64K segments any time. all i want to say is, if someone like me can write a simple netbios chat program 3 months after starting to learn C using djgpp, that indicates good design and good documentation (not to forget ralph brown's interrupt list here. thanks one more time to the people working on djgpp. sinan.