Mailing-List: contact cygwin-developers-help AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-developers-owner AT sources DOT redhat DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin-developers AT sources DOT redhat DOT com Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 16:04:09 -0400 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin-developers AT cygwin DOT com Subject: discouraged Message-ID: <20010903160409.A2850@redhat.com> Reply-To: cygwin-developers AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-developers AT cygwin DOT com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.21i I've tried to hold off sending this email but I thought it was probably time to share. I'm getting discouraged about the state of cygwin development. Lately, this mailing list as devolved into a bug reporting mailing list. There is little actual development or fixing going on. Instead, there standard message goes something like either "I don't have time to track this down but my machine catches on fire when I type 'ls'. I'm just sending this message in case it helps someone else." or, slightly better variation 2: "I noticed that typing 'pwd' deletes most of the files in my /tmp directory. So, I spent the last several days tracking this down. Here's an strace of how it fails. I really don't understand why it's happening but I hope that someone else will understand it and be able to fix it." What I'm getting from all of this is that cygwin is just too complicated for anyone besides me, Corinna, and Egor and Kazurhiro to understand. If one of us isn't able to fix the problem, it just doesn't get fixed. I don't know what to do about this. It is getting so that I don't even want to read this mailing list. There is sure to be a bug here that someone has found intractable. I have to wonder how something like linux ever got off the ground. These days it seems like Linux Torvalds doesn't have to be the sole person who understands how signals work. There are a number of other people who understand the linux kernel very well. And, before everyone sends lots of speculation about why this is so wrt cygwin, please don't bother. I'm really not interested in theories of behavior. I'm just tired of doing it all myself. I'm also not interested in hearing that it's all to hard because the code is not commented or the algorithms are obscure. cgf