Mailing-List: contact cygwin-developers-help AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-developers-owner AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin-developers AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com From: Chris Faylor Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 11:48:54 -0400 To: cygwin-developers AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com Subject: Re: Time for a new DLL release Message-ID: <20000429114854.D14383@cygnus.com> Reply-To: cygwin-developers AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cgf AT cygnus DOT com, cygwin-developers AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com References: <20000428171049 DOT F3289 AT cygnus DOT com> <20000428174044 DOT A3864 AT cygnus DOT com> <390AA2D8 DOT 70D69C52 AT vinschen DOT de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.12i In-Reply-To: <390AA2D8.70D69C52@vinschen.de>; from corinna@vinschen.de on Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 10:52:40AM +0200 On Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 10:52:40AM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >I would gladly appreciate any help in building a Windows GUI. I had >the bad luck to be forced to write Macintosh/Windows GUIs the last >seven years and I'm cured of them! Whatever you do there is always >a user which is graining about the position or the ambiguous text of >a button. Umm, no, I'm not _really_ embittered... Ron Parker has shown great facility at creating setup programs in record time, so if he's volunteering to help, I think it would be great if you could collaborate. I have had the same experience with designing GUIs. It will be just a variation on our present experience with setup.exe. People used to previously complain about the massive full.exe download, now they look back on it fondly and wonder why we changed it. The GUI will be the same way. People will always be confused by what a particular button does or will be complaining that we did something stupidly. Nah, I'm not bitter either. I just wrote a Windows editor. Technical support for GUIs is also very hard. "Did you click on the File menu?" "I don't know what you mean. I moused your program and it crashed my computer." "When you say 'crashed your computer' what do you mean? Can you still use the computer after the program goes away?" "The program doesn't go away! That's what I'm saying!" "So can you move the cursor?" "No. The 'Home' button doesn't work. It just sits there." "What about the arrow keys?" "I'm pressing the Backspace button but it keeps beeping! I told you my computer is crashed!" "What about the right arrow, um, button?" (twenty five seconds of typing) "Ok. It seems to work now. But now I have two windows. I want to get rid of the crashed one. How do I do that?" etc. cgf