Mailing-List: contact cygwin-developers-help AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-developers-owner AT sources DOT redhat DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin-developers AT sources DOT redhat DOT com Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 08:20:52 -0400 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin-developers AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: A cygwin mailing list experiment Message-ID: <20010508082052.G21710@redhat.com> Reply-To: cygwin-developers AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-developers AT cygwin DOT com References: <20010507210729 DOT A32234 AT redhat DOT com> <005701c0d7b7$224ccf20$0200a8c0 AT lifelesswks> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.11i In-Reply-To: <005701c0d7b7$224ccf20$0200a8c0@lifelesswks>; from robert.collins@itdomain.com.au on Tue, May 08, 2001 at 10:04:44PM +1000 On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 10:04:44PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Christopher Faylor" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 11:07 AM >Subject: OT: A cygwin mailing list experiment > > >>Corinna and I have decided to be conspicuously absent from the cygwin >>mailing list for this week (at least). I'd like to see what this does >>to the traffic there. >> >>Btw, the reason for doing this is that cygwin and cygwin-xfree are >>pretty much swamping the sources.redhat.com server. I've tried a >couple >>of times to compose mail asking for suggestions for reducing the >>traffic. But, I couldn't bring myself to send it because I knew that >>it would either be ignored, or it would result in a flurry of clueless >>responses (not too cynical, am I?), which would aggravate the problem. > >This may not fit politically or pragmatically, but have you considered >utilising something like sourceforge, whose business model is centred >around providing mailing lists/bug trackers and the like? The political part is the problem. I also like being able to do sysadmin work on sources.redhat.com. I have to admit to being constantly frustrated by our sysadmin's assurance that sources.redhat.com will be moved to a new, improved site with infinitely better bandwidth, though. It was supposed to happen in January. It looks like I have things tuned well enough to accomodate the recent increases in activity. I do think that there are procedural ways to deal with the problems in the list, though. Improving cygwin's documentation and making it available as a man or info page is one way. Weekly FAQ submissions is another. Standardized FAQ-like responses to repeated queries (e.g., "Why doesn't chmod work") is another. I'm thinking of doing what some mailing lists do and sending email to first-time posters, pointing out locations for various resources on the web. I'm still interested in seeing what becomes of our experiment, though. I am usually the person with the first or second highest response to mailing list traffic. It is hard for me not to respond to problems but, so far, my input has barely been needed. Sniff. cgf