Mailing-List: contact cygwin-apps-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Sender: cygwin-apps-owner AT cygwin DOT com List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-apps AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin-apps AT cygwin DOT com Message-ID: <3CA49069.9070209@ece.gatech.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 11:03:53 -0500 From: Charles Wilson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Collins CC: Jim , Cygwin-Apps Subject: Re: more and base References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert Collins wrote: >>> Can we remove more from base? >>> >> More is what? 3k? I'd love to have had it in the base install when >> I installed my cygwin - >> > > I support having a pager in the default install (which != > base!!!!!!!) Base: cygwin is non-functional and completely broken(*) unless each and every package in Base is installed. 'more' is not a requirement for a functioning cygwin installation. Therefore it shouldn't go in Base. (Yes, there are a few other packages in Base that probably don't belong there, but that's an issue for another day). Now, a Base-only cygwin installation may be *useless* in the sense that "sure, cygwin works -- but I can't do anything useful with it except mv files around, unless X Y and Z packages, which are not in Base, are installed." But useless is not the same as non-functional. (*) Yes, I know it's possible to configure certain specialized tasks with only (say) cygwin, sshd, and login (use c:\winnt\cmd.exe as the shell) -- but that's beyond the scope of the "normal" cygwin installation. > >> I want the basic development environment too - since what use is >> the environment without gcc? >> > > Lots. Squid. Apache. SSH. CVS. None of these require gcc. Web development. perl programming. Python programming. Document creation (tex/xfig). --Chuck